Please buff Succor.

[Valiant]

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The problem with the trolls saying SCH is OP is that they only look at SCH by the tooltips and not actually bother to level it and truly see what it's capable of... Such as for SCH to be good they should crit alot.. Most hardly crit, especially when it's needed. I'd rather at the moment have 2 WHMs hit me with regen and medica 2 than rely on a SCHs shield since the amount gained from regen is more than what one shield prevents (i tried it and i know it's true (50 CNJ and ACN)) SCHs have a desperate need to be ironed out with their mechanics to be on par with WHMs and a properly working faerie AI. Since I should not have to cast for my faerie while I'm healing.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Alu- I gave suggestions. They need to fix pet ui/ai, make pet abilities toggle on or off auto-use- so you can reserve the ones you want on demand, and possibly reduce pet ae regen cd from 30 seconds to, maybe 15-20 seconds. Also, allow pet commands while casting.

Use pet fixes to correct problems, not homogenizing and leaving pet broken.

The pet regen is weaker than WHM regen, and it being a longer duration means nothing as that just means it's a lot of overhealing because a medica II+1x medica is capable of topping most raids off back to full in a few seconds.

The only reason you bring a scholar at the moment is for sacred soil, lustrate, and eos's healing potency buff.


And tbh Medica II just seems broken because of how strong regen is. Several healing ticks for around 300 on top of an initial aoe heal for the price of a single GCD is too good.

[fanservice]

And tbh Medica II just seems broken because of how strong regen is. Several healing ticks for around 300 on top of an initial aoe heal for the price of a single GCD is too good.

They get that, and cure iii, but the moment I humbly suggest the standard medica being usable by SCHs with pet UI fixes, they beat me with sticks and call me names

[ApolloGenX]

They get that, and cure iii, but the moment I humbly suggest the standard medica being usable by SCHs with pet UI fixes, they beat me with sticks and call me names

No, I don't want SCH up, and changes do need to be made, it's just unclear how much would be improved with pet changes, so those should be done first...and immediately. Once those are done, then maybe more changes.

The pet heal is weaker because its mana free. If it was reliably available on lower cd, it would be better- but equal and mana free is a bit much.

I understand that SCH heals aren't as strong, but to have the same strength of heals would require trade off in SCH shielding and mitigation, and that would homogenize the classes. I want SCH to be functional, but not a copy of whm plus shields and mana free pet.

Cure 3 is junk bc of range. If they expand the range for that, I would support a large increase to succor shield size.

I liked switching between holy and disc, because they were different in wow.

[kronpas]

Cure 3 is pure junk if you want to aoe heal with it, but its always fun to pop +healing cooldown, drink a mnd pot and pop a sure-crit Cure 3 on a tank with +healing done (dont know what it is, it says 5 stacks +% healing done). Largest cure 3 I ever seen is around 2k7 with my sub-par gear :-x

[Vhayne]

Alu- I gave suggestions. They need to fix pet ui/ai, make pet abilities toggle on or off auto-use- so you can reserve the ones you want on demand, and possibly reduce pet ae regen cd from 30 seconds to, maybe 15-20 seconds. Also, allow pet commands while casting.

Use pet fixes to correct problems, not homogenizing and leaving pet broken.

Actually, Whispering Dawn (pet AoE HoT) has a 60sec cooldown, not 30. But I tend to agree we should get the pets sorted asap and re-evaluate the class as a whole after that.

[Alu79]

Alu- I gave suggestions. They need to fix pet ui/ai, make pet abilities toggle on or off auto-use- so you can reserve the ones you want on demand, and possibly reduce pet ae regen cd from 30 seconds to, maybe 15-20 seconds. Also, allow pet commands while casting.

Use pet fixes to correct problems, not homogenizing and leaving pet broken.

The aoe hot from fairy is a 1 minute cd, I was suggesting that they drop it to 30 sec.

This isn't directed at you specifically, Apollo, just in general I wish whm's would lvl a SCH. Because I have both and lemme tell ya, the grass is most def greener on the other side.

Also, having a second succor consuming shield of the first succor type mechanic to boost healing is in no way homogenizing the two classes. You would have to give whm and healing pet, and give sch the vast variety of healing spells and cc spells whm get. That would be homogenization.

[Crescent_Dusk]

No, I don't want SCH up, and changes do need to be made, it's just unclear how much would be improved with pet changes, so those should be done first...and immediately. Once those are done, then maybe more changes.

The pet heal is weaker because its mana free. If it was reliably available on lower cd, it would be better- but equal and mana free is a bit much.

I understand that SCH heals aren't as strong, but to have the same strength of heals would require trade off in SCH shielding and mitigation, and that would homogenize the classes. I want SCH to be functional, but not a copy of whm plus shields and mana free pet.

Cure 3 is junk bc of range. If they expand the range for that, I would support a large increase to succor shield size.

I liked switching between holy and disc, because they were different in wow.

Being mana free and garbage doesn't make it good.

It is mana free because it has a cooldown. They can put a mana cost in when the skill can be spammed.

Again, diluted skills are of no value. If the skill isn't strong enough to address the situations it is meant for, it doesn't matter what marginal perk it has. It comes down to whether it can efficiently keep people from dying or not.

[ApolloGenX]

Being mana free and garbage doesn't make it good.

It is mana free because it has a cooldown. They can put a mana cost in when the skill can be spammed.

Again, diluted skills are of no value. If the skill isn't strong enough to address the situations it is meant for, it doesn't matter what marginal perk it has. It comes down to whether it can efficiently keep people from dying or not.

I was suggesting a reduced CD to 30 seconds. I wasn't saying that is what the current CD is... I think the current CD is too long for the strength.