Please buff Succor.

[ApolloGenX]

So sch has to precast succor and then cast succor 2 more times after the aoe hits. Whereas a whm can toss up 1 medica2 once after aoe and do equivalent healing to the sch . Thanks for proving my point. Sch has to spend waaay more time on the raid then whm does. You will find guilds are wanting double whm just as much or more then sch + whm.

Wrong. Sch can precast and have shields eat dmg, while a whm has to spend cast time AFTER damage on medica 2, gets partial healing and the regen has to tick out to get the rest of the healing. Meanwhile, the SCH is casting Succor 2, has already had shields that absorbed and now gets healing plus instant shielding on incoming damage for full.

The SCH has massively outhealed the WHM, by pre-empting and getting full-upfront value on heals. Chances are that the raid will be topped off, leaving even more regen ticks wasted.

Stop QQing and asking to be OP. They work differently. Yes, two whms fill a raid up quickly- that is because they eat full damage. A SCH fills it up slower, but they aren't eating full damage. Play a whm and stop whining if you hate your class.

..or please go spam the boards with made up claims that everyone is stacking whms with absolutely zero evidence to try to lobby for buffs, so you can be OP. The pet UI is bad. It needs to be fixed. If you don't like the style, that is a problem with you, not the class.

[sharazisspecial]

Wrong. Sch can precast and have shields eat dmg, while a whm has to spend cast time AFTER damage on medica 2, gets partial healing and the regen has to tick out to get the rest of the healing. Meanwhile, the SCH is casting Succor 2, has already had shields that absorbed and now gets healing plus instant shielding on incoming damage for full.

The SCH has massively outhealed the WHM, by pre-empting and getting full-upfront value on heals. Chances are that the raid will be topped off, leaving even more regen ticks wasted.

Stop QQing and asking to be OP.

Regeneration effect is akin to "preemptive mitigation" too, 2 regens and 2 medica 2 on tank ticking does like a cure 2 worth of healing every 3 seconds. The piddly shields that sch take so long to put up don't mitigate anything. Disco priest is so strong in wow because their shields are as strong or stronger then the others classes healing spells. But sch shield is about 1/4-1/3 strength to equivilant heal. Disco could stack their shields effect , sch can't and are penalized for trying too.

Yeah i am loving this double whm easy mode healing. Hopefully 2 whm dont get nerfed before i can abuse it and get the easy coil wins. Whm and sch share the allagan gear anyways.

[ApolloGenX]

Regen is preemtive migitation too, 2 regens and 2 medica 2 on tank ticking does like a cure 2 worth of healing every 3 seconds.

Yeah i love this whm easy mode healing. Hopefully 2 whm dont get nerfed before i can abuse it and get the easy coil wins.

You obviously don't know what pre-emptive or mitigation is...HoTs are neither. A clear case of someone who cares nothing of balance and just wants to be OP because it's the only way they can get into groups. Yes- please go get those "easy coil wins" stacking whms. Tell us all about it.

[kronpas]

You obviously don't know what pre-emptive or mitigation is...HoTs are neither. A clear case of someone who cares nothing of balance and just wants to be OP because it's the only way they can get into groups. Yes- please go get those "easy coil wins" stacking whms. Tell us all about it.

You cant compare SCH shield to WOW"s disc priest's. To make up for its lack of AoE healing power, the shield must be way stronger. To mid-Catac when I still played, disc priest were borderline OP in 25m and blatantly OP in 10m because it had 2 shields, one produced when its heals critted, stackable, and the another was instant cast leaving a debuff on its target to prevent spamming. And that shield enjoyed almost 90% spell coeff (among the highest instant cast coeff) to boot. On the other hand, SCH shield is halved in power since it hasto share potency with a heal and requires cast time to produce, the effect is almost negligible. No need to visit coil, you can try "pre-shield" on Titan to see how much difference it brings. First hand experience is always better than quoting on "other known SCH in other threads" to defend your argument. One thing I love in this game is that you dont even have to grind gear to play both classes at the same time, so for once the "play as one yourself to see if it is true" actually is valid.

The only scenario I can think of where succor is equal to medica 2 i when there is constant AoE on raid that medica2 ticks, with its 100 potency and 3s/tick cant cope with, that requires both healers to expend their mana bar. Even so, a WHM can simply Medica 2 then spam medica 1 away.

Most SCHs that enjoy SCH healing at the moment is telling how awesome their faires are and how they can micro manage them to maximum efficiency. None mentions the miserable AoE shield called Succor. Pre-empitive AoE shielding simply doesnt exist at this state of the game, dont quote on it any more please :\

Adol is actually decent though.