Should I expect griefers on a regular basis at end-game?

[Dyvid]

I just finished my story quest and queued up from HM Ifrit. We pull, then apparently 1 of the tanks didn't properly interrupt some spell that caused to ranged to have to move or something. The WHM (Lady Yunalesca on Faerie) absolutely goes nuts and then says they're going to stop healing. After we wipe, they say that someone else should leave because they don't want the leaving debuff. We tried to pull it a few more times with 1 healer while this WHM just jumped around, but it didn't work out and the group disbanded

http://i.imgur.com/G2cZaei.jpg

Without a votekick system AND with a leaving debuff, SE seems to have created a perfect environment for griefers to get what they want. Does SE really care about this stuff or do they think that the playerbase will work itself out until only players like this person remain?

Did you at least report her for griefing?

[MutznNutz]

Only lvl34, but already been stuck with some true jerks in DF.

Did my 1st Brayflox run last night. PLD tank along with a THM, WHM and me (SMN).
WHM goes AFK every 2 mins even mid fight, causing me to spam Physick and basically main heal the first mini-boss (wiped once until I realised the WHM was doing eff all).
Then the WHM realises all his gear is Broken, and strips down to a naked Roe (unpleasant experience that one!)
We finally get on to the 2nd mini-boss (the Dragon where the Gobbie brings in a 2nd one).
The WHM still fails to Cure the tank (= 1st two wipes, although he was not AFK this time, just kept spamming DoT's). Then the THM starts giving me grief for "attacking the sleeper" when he sleeps the 2nd dragon. I try to point out that the NPC Gobbie is the one attacking the 2nd mob, and suddenly the tank and the THM drop, the WHM says "Well I need to bail" and drops, and I am left wondering WTF just happened.

I admit I am far from the "best" SMN as yet, I am still learning. It was my 1st Brayflow run (I said so, asked for any guidance, was met with silence). And I was assisting (and main healing) the Tank. No AoE abilities used, no guidance, no advice, just abuse. Yet I was probably the only one in the group actually doing my job......

I suppose it is a bonus though that I am learning how much of an a$$hat the DF makes people long before I even reach Endgame!!!

[Seveers]

for me the community gets worse after level 45...

[Tsukino]

The problem with these systems is that they will just be used by the jerks themselves. Someone not skipping the cut scene? Vote to kick them. Someone joined new and hasn't done the fight 100 times before even though the game is less than a month old? Rate them down.

[Silverharp]

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Did you manage to get Misa's number for me? Judging from the chat dialogue, they seem to know how to have a good time.

[PennBlackacre]

Did you at least report her for griefing?

Yeah, I did using the ingame report thing.

[kazaran]

With the mentality, and childish antics of so many growing, a kick system would be greatly abused with egotistical ( I want it my way-or you are worthless) attitudes. It just isn't a safe bet.

Perhaps the real solution is people working on their own issues first.

[Jynx]

Duty Finder VS Local Only
- The people who are against cross-server grouping are 99% Tanks and Healers who will have no trouble finding a party for any content, no matter what. Of course they don't need Duty Finder. Tanks/Healers, I respect what you people do, but I also cannot emphasize enough the effects of Tank/Healer privilege. A lot of you are very nice people and skilled players, but playing your role often seems to give some of you a very warped perspective of what dungeons are "like" and what it means to queue or re-queue.
- The option to form a local group is still there, especially for Tanks/Healers.
- DPS queue time is already guaranteed to be at least 30-40 minutes, and that's with the benefits of a cross-server DF. Now, you think our search should be narrowed to only our local server, and dependent on us constantly spamming chat channels, hoping to get some attention?
- Do you think more and more MMORPGs are installing automatic group-finders for no reason? They are necessary. Without DF, I would have done maybe one or two dungeons so far, and my main story quests would be on indefinite hold.
- "Cross server destroys the community, keeping to your own server builds your reputation!" Firstly, some people are less social than others. I try to be exceedingly nice to everybody I group up with, and help others where I can -- but if access to dungeons were gated behind maintaining a Facebook-esque collection of 100-200 strangers who have nothing in common with me except server choice, I just would never get anything done. Secondly, I don't believe "server reputation" exists, beyond simply blacklisting people who are jerks. If you meet someone online and they become your friend, that's not "server rep," that is just your personal contact list.

I love all the massive assumptions you make in this post and act as if they were facts.

If you didn't have a Duty finder you would have done more than 2 dungeons or are you alergic to interacting with people to do anything in the game? Server community does exist when the game doesn't allow you to ignore it, and there are plenty of DPS who are against the Duty finder, just because it takes longer to get a group "Arguable as we have no evidence that lacking a duty finder would make dungeon groups take 30-40 minutes to form" doesn't mean that DPS (Me) think it's the wrong way to go.

[Misatox]

lol I got flamed for making a statement and defending myself! I did nothing wrong and do believe you should watch CS's in the Inn in private cause they get you killed in dungeons! sorry I have a different standard of playing then you do but that's how I feel! Report me all you want, I did nothing wrong lmao!

[Gramul]

lol I got flamed for making a statement and defending myself! I did nothing wrong and do believe you should watch CS's in the Inn in private cause they get you killed in dungeons! sorry I have a different standard of playing then you do but that's how I feel! Report me all you want, I did nothing wrong lmao!

I don't think it would kill you to wait with everyone else till the cutscene's over. Just show a little courtesy to those who want to experience the game as it happens.