Has SE screwed itself?

[Exstal]

So from reading the last few pages, here's what I've gathered;

-PGL is less likely to be a tank because you have to rework everything about it
-Sniper (a DPS class), would not be exactly like Bard because their class abilities are different
-Evasion tanking sucks

Now, since I've taken a gander at those topics let's try to simplify it heavily for those who get crit by walls of text

1. PGL tank
- add emnity to skills randomly across the board
- tweak stat allocation akin to SMN/SCH to achieve similiar HP to WAR/PLD
- positional requirements need to go as it'd be impossible to do from a tank standpoint

2. Sniper
Not much to say on this. From what I saw, it's just a Bard without songs. So why not just give these job skills to Bard and make it only usable in a certain stance (Sniper Stance)?

3. This has been beaten to death. It's also been theorycrafted on how it could be awesome. Just look around and you'll find it.

[MartaDemireux]

2. Sniper
Not much to say on this. From what I saw, it's just a Bard without songs. So why not just give these job skills to Bard and make it only usable in a certain stance (Sniper Stance)?

I'd prefer they just drop LNC from BRD, add ACN and upon further level cap raising give them more songs. Take that /LNC and give it to Ranger, a pure DPS option for ARC. This would require a new support role being made. This way you lock out 2x BRD scenarios with no DPS LB in PT.

[Exstal]

It really just goes back to what Kitru was saying;

Class => Job1 or Job2
DPS => DPS or not DPS

If you get something like

DPS => DPS or DPS

They are effectively the exact same class due to how FFXIV's job system is setup. I have an idea how you could change that, giving a stack system and/or giving different attributes when you apply soul crystal, however in essence you'd be playing carbon copies of one another.

[Kaonis]

[QUOTE=ZenBear;1261074 but in FFXI the iconic DK weapon is the scythe which is a slashing rather than stabbing weapon.[/QUOTE]

Can we stop it with the FFXI comparisons already? DRK with 2 handed weapons was pretty much a one time thing with XI and long before then in III and IV DRK used 1 handed swords and shields (or dual wielding in III since that was was so much more effective and cooler).

I'd much rather see a classical rendition of DRK show up, one who uses and sword and shield to deal damage. It would be cool if they added in dark swords as a sort of subclass to swords too to differentiate between the swords PLD's use and the ones DRK uses.

[Tazytiggy]

I think people are looking at jobs entirely wrong, it isn't a whole new class it is a specialization of your current class. Equipping a soul gives you extra skills/abilities, which is balanced by limiting your cross class skill selection. I believe the purpose was to add variety to the game, not carbon copy's. The community is reenforcing the carbon copy idea, and entirely ignoring the possibilities that can come from being creative with your character.

[sylin]

Yeah, can you not equip a job crystal and then use a lot more cross class abilities? Im pretty sure you can use every ability you have learned on another class without a job crystal equipped. The tradeoff for the job crystal is specialized abilities.

[Marionette]

Keep in mind that soul crystals don't even necessarily have to be involved, they can easily make it so the quest to unlock the job has the job unlock quests as perquisite to starting them.