Tank Classes Off Tank DPS

[Gorehound]

I just tested this on a target dummy using identical gear on both classes (Ifrit weapon, AF1 and a few Darklight pieces) and identical stat distribution (+30 VIT). For PLD I used the Rage of Halone combo instead of Riot Blade. I hit the dummy for around ~100 seconds each, basically using Fight or Flight/Berserk at the start and stopping when they came off cooldown.

These were the results
PLD: 134.11
WAR: 133.84

Make your own conclusions.

Need more info... was this with shield oath and defiance on? Maybe test with them off? We ARE talking off-tank dps. The other guy was parsing 150ish pala dps and 170ish war dps.

[ogopogo]

Need more info... was this with shield oath and defiance on? Maybe test with them off? We ARE talking off-tank dps. The other guy was parsing 150ish pala dps and 170ish war dps.

He was using Ifrit's axe and mostly AF1 so it's obviously going to be lower, but I agree we need more details. How much potency did he pack into a berserk? Is he using Inner Beast by toggling and how often? What about Internal Release, was he timing it to sync with Berserk? Also he should be alternating BB and SE combos since the 20 potency is much better even if his SE debuff does drops off while he's doing doing the next SE.

[Sazazazenko]

He was using Ifrit's axe and mostly AF1 so it's obviously going to be lower, but I agree we need more details. How much potency did he pack into a berserk? Is he using Inner Beast by toggling and how often? What about Internal Release, was he timing it to sync with Berserk? Also he should be alternating BB and SE combos since the 20 potency is much better even if his SE debuff does drops off while he's doing doing the next SE.

I tested PLD and WAR with Sword Oath and Defiance off respectively. Also, I tested alternating BB and SE combos and got about 2-3 DPS less than I would get maximizing SE debuff uptime. I also didn't use Internal Release as I don't use it for tanking.

[ogopogo]

I tested PLD and WAR with Sword Oath and Defiance off respectively. Also, I tested alternating BB and SE combos and got about 2-3 DPS less than I would get maximizing SE debuff uptime. I also didn't use Internal Release as I don't use it for tanking.

Have you tried toggling Defiance on with about 4 seconds left on Berserk and Infuriate into Inner Beast? You can toggle Defiance off by the time you cast Heavy swing after the Pacification. Also, how consistent did alternating BB/SE combo lose to maximum SE up time? I get the feeling that 2-3 DPS isn't very significant unless it's very consistent. As for Internal Release, I recommend trying it when you don't need to run Flash. (which I often don't run now a day)

[AridElf]

Keep in mind that if you have a very close healer you can in fact Esuna off Pacification and can shave off 3 or 4 seconds of that penalty.

[nijian]

You are a WAR. You are a tank. Stop talking DPS, and start tanking. :P