Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Shneibel]

so far the way to advoide that is when you run out of aoe, you have to do a skill and then cancel it, it is not 100% but it would reduce the % you get hit after get out, technical it is the same as when you are inside the cone and do a instant cast while run out, you ll get hit by the aoe. The situation atm is better than 1.0

[shinkicker]

With the way the lag is it is VERY hard to play from Australia. I've never had this much lag since back when I played EQ on Dial-up, and even that was more responsive. All the other current MMO's I play I get ~200ms ping and generally pretty solid response when I use any abilities, this game, not so much. I did Ifrit earlier, I was literally waiting for the AOE and running *the* instant straight out of it, and even when i was over a body length away from the aoe I'd still get hit 50% of the time. I'm willing to give a little slack since these servers are slightly further away (in Montreal apparently?) rather than in San Francisco like, for example, WoW. But as things are, it's going to be difficult for me to play end game stuff. Which makes me a sad sad kitty, since when I've played on East Coast servers in other MMOs I've not had these problems.

Please improve the net code somehow.

[Moonwood]

The most irritating thing about this for me is that it makes me (and everyone else who suffers) look like bad players! The "But I *did* dodge it!" excuse sounds terribly lame... but it's true ~_~

Oh god... I know that feeling... and as white mage it's a pure bully... I blame myself already on a mistake who's simply not mine... and it's depressing. Add your team insulting you and this is the worse. I would like an apologize from SE for the constant pressure it puts on people and to have to swallow sarcasm and comment that we have to go through from other players as they don't even give a damn about knowing the truth... Game should be fun and challenging... Not a stupid lottery ticket...
REFRESH THE DAMN POSITION FASTER

[Kenka]

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As a tank I usually go from raging really hard/cursing in several languages to a madman's laughter when this happens.. Pretty much like the "Don't fall" titan video posted earlier. Sometimes I just soak the complaints with resignation because.. what else can i do?

Position for instanced fights should be refreshed much much faster. How much strain can it put on the server to check you position 10 times per second instead of 3 while on primals/bosses?

[Sneakaboo]

The problem of lag was raised and a number of people said they had not seen this problem and therefore it must be at the players end: bad computer, bad internet etc etc. - no one mentioned that this is a known bug.

It's hard not to feel that any hope for improvement is gone, it does not seem to be very important to most people. If it's not important to most of the player-base then why would SE devote any time to addressing it?

Technically speaking it is your connection.
They set the play ground, which is that we all play with 300 ms.
The fact you might have 100 to 150 ms is 'your own problem'.


Simply put if you sub for this game, you consider this to be acceptable.
If the amount of people is large enough there is no reason SE is going to bother fixing their servers.
Since it's a company that doesn't aim to be the best, but just good enough.

Other companies use a different way of coding since by removing the 300ms lag from people they don't notice the server spikes much.
Add some proper latency masking and for you it all feels instant.
What happens here is no different than releasing a MMORPG with such high system requirements that most people can't play it and say 'get a better computer'.

The only difference is that getting a new rig is more doable than decreasing your ping with servers in Canada, it's not going to happen in most cases.


I think after that beta topic being silenced by SE it was pretty clear that they aren't interested in fixing it.
Yes Yoshi did made that post but nothing changed.

[RightMSJ]

Could the problem everyone is having be with hardware lag? Lag from low fps looks exactly the same as internet lag, and can sometimes be mistaken for internet lag.

[ElunaMay]

They should get the lads over at Eidos Montreal to have a look at the server for them as they made the multiplayer aspect of Tomb Raider and that was buttery smooth

Could the problem everyone is having be with hardware lag? Lag from low fps looks exactly the same as internet lag, and can sometimes be mistaken for internet lag.

No, both myself and others here run the game smoothly but still suffer from the issue

[Yuichi]

Yeah that lag is really starting to get to me. Especially the freezing for 5-8 sec and just hoping I am not in an aoe.

[TheRac25]

the position checks and latency in this game is horrible, it's not designed for players having more than a few ms of latency.

pretty much this, i bet it works great plugged into the same lan as the server, no thought was given to non local latency

[Eclipsed]

This issue needs to stay at the top of the forums. It is killing many peoples enjoyment of the game. Personally it is driving me nuts. I have raided in virtually every major MMO in the past 13 years. I have never ever had problems avoiding telegraphed attacks in games that had this mechanic. However even last night tanking Dhorme Chimera for example I couldn't avoid some of the attacks to save my life. I was out of the breath attacks for a good half second or more before they finished casting and still got hit. I get about 100ms ping from my location to the data center, which while not amazing, it is not that bad either. It is what is to be expected when you have only one data center for the entire continental US. This has to be compensated for, either in a slight increase in cast times or better server location checks. I am already on optical fiber internet, I can't get anything better and in other games it has served me just fine and I have been considered one of the better players in all of my raid groups. Here in FFXIV I feel like a failure due to the way this game handles things. This needs to be fixed.