Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Goreth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0

That video makes it as plain as day, he is out of the AoE area when the cast bar is at 50%. I would like to see some of the naysayers comment on this, would like to see SE comment on this even more; I doubt either will happen.

[Nestama]

yeah i can explain it to you. You were still in the dam red area when the cast was finished, what do none of you seem to understand about this. You may have been out by the time that animation finished, but thats not what the game cares about, it only cares about where you are when that cast bar completes, and you were clearly still in it when it finished. nuff said

Then explain this: http://youtu.be/QsHuXAl-bOY?t=6m21s

Notice how the player is OUT of the AoE BEFORE the cast bar is complete? By your logic, he should have avoided the attack completely.

[Altena]

this is a nice one, not sure if already posted somewhere before...

Wow that one is the best example I have seen... 50%? Heh

[Snorgrind]

More PEBCAK:

Actually i didnt try to dodge that, i just wanted to know why he kicked me in wrong direction if according to the server im infront of him

[eyloi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0

That video makes it as plain as day, he is out of the AoE area when the cast bar is at 50%. I would like to see some of the naysayers comment on this, would like to see SE comment on this even more; I doubt either will happen.

If this doesn't get fixed, I predict a lot of players will eventually find another game to spend their $15 a month.

This is not something you can just ignore and hope players eventually stop complaining about it.

[Gamina]

this is a nice one, not sure if already posted somewhere before...

Thank you for posting such a beautiful example of the mythical "Be out of it before 75%" theory being quashed. He is way out of the AOE before 75% around 50% and still gets shafted.

[Namko]

This me moving out of WotL at 99%

http://youtu.be/s9xs-nH46Mk

Thanks for posting that video, it helps to see it from someone who is not having the problems. Could you make another video please, I want to see what happens with autofollow.

1. Get someone/friend to target you and /follow
2. Start Fraps and swing your camera view around so you can see them
3. Now start running forward
4. After about five seconds stop and wait for them to catch up to you and stop
5. Stop Fraps

If we can get videos of this from people who are not having problems dodging AoE's then maybe we can see a difference in /follow - which uses the positional updates.

Thanks.

I'll do this tonight.

It might help resolve the issue if people with lag problems can post more info...ping speed, packet loss, wired or wireless, hardware specs, isp speeds etc. I can see from some of the videos it is happening but I believe there is a vast majority of people not realising cast bar and animation are not synced (which is ridiculous).

Oh and btw I don't use ping zapper or any vpn thingy. Just hard wired next to the master socket, no wifi.

[StarBright]

One of the major problems is that people like Namko (who I don't doubt means well and is honestly trying to help) simply do not understand the issue and incorrectly think they aren't affected by it. *Every* player, on *Every* NA/EU server, on *Every* ISP with *Every* possible PC setup is affected by this issue.

Here's the simple test: start casting a spell/ability, then move your character before its done casting, with 10-30 (100-300ms) left on the cast bar. Do this several times in a row. The spells will nearly always complete. If anyone can upload a video showing them successfully canceling spell/ability casts near the end, several times in a row, I'll be happy to buy you a 3-month sub. This goes for Namko, or any other player who doesn't understand this issue and mistakenly thinks it is about ping speed, packet loss, or anything else but SE's terrible, terrible servers.

[Xystic]

My brothers and I (A family of gamers) got together one weekend for a 4 man dungeon. I was unable to dodge any aoe with my older laptop. Sitting side by side, we noticed that my cast bar would show up slightly after theirs and would finish casting after theirs were already casted. After 45 minutes of deaths, I switched to a newer up to date computer and the problem with the aoe-lag was solved. We also tested this on an older gaming pc we built 5 years ago in WoW's day and it was also having the same problem with all settings set to minimum.

Whether or not we are all affected to some degree I don't know,the 100-300ms. The only way to actually test this is to have multiple same top notch computers test for the delay I guess and then for lesser computers and so forth. Testing it for yourself will just give you results based on your system I feel. Sitting side by side with my brothers clearly shows an older pc performing poorly, especially my laptop for aoe.

[Norna]

I don't have packet loss. Done Leatrix Latency Fix. Done Port Forwarding. Have pinged all the game servers always been under 150. I move out of the red the moment it appears (or I'm already strafing away), I get hit 50-90% of the time. It doesn't matter if I use WTFast or try every other "fix".

Looking at guide videos of future Hard Mode fights, I have realized that I will never be able to do that content at this rate. Story Mode Titan might Landslide me stuck in the story as well.

I had less lag during Early Access, and now after a bunch of "fixes" I'm still in the red from the other side of the battlefield, apparently.

And before you question my ISP, it's Telia. They're Tier 1 on the internet backbone/network gig. If Tier 1 customers notice a unusually high lag (possibly game-breaking), things are bad server-side.