Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Stormblessed]

Bumpy Bump, I will continue to bump this thread because Squeenix seem afraid to show their faces around here, I doubt I'll get into any trouble for a useless post. I'm ashamed of ever claiming that Square Enix had good customer care when this thread has been completely and utterly ignored.

Cancelled my auto-renew on my account and it won't be being reactivated until I see intent to fix this horrendous medieval server/client coding.

I second Vincent1's sentiments in that I appreciate that people are trying to help in this thread, but please read through the thread and try to understand exactly what we're complaining about.

[Undrentide]

Bump, and remember for Healers we dont often see casting bars as we are focusing on the parties hp!

[M4Fade]

I've been saying this since beta. The delay is worse than games I played in the 90s on dial-up. I get 20 ms ping to the server (I live a few hours drive away) and yet there is a massive delay on every action.. I was getting 250+ ping on diablo 3 and that wasn't anywhere near as bad. Last weekend I was playing with a friend in the same room and got to witness it first hand - I would jump and my jump wouldn't even start to register on their screen until at least 1+ second after I had landed :/

People keep bringing up Titan... It's not just Titan, it's just most noticeable there as people get wrecked and then wipe. It's this. ^

As I've said before, I play right beside my girlfriend. We live in California. We have about anywhere 70-120 ping. We have Cox High-Speed Internet. 28 Down/10 Up. If I jump while watching her screen, I don't see my action register on her computer until about 1 second later. Or vice versa. It's silly. No doubt, this happens in other MMO's too.. but not constantly or as bad, like here.

Oh, and it's very hard to hit moving enemies while meleeing too, even if you're right on top of them. This ties into all the issues pointed out in this thread.

And also what Bearssi said:

This was most noticeable for me when i was still playing when there was an object i needed to interact and i would get spammed by "Interrupted" several times before i was able to activate the object.
Most of players would recognize this behavior from Castrum Meridianum when you run to a cannon or at the instances last boss and go for the ammo piles.

Also this. Why isn't anything instant in this game? This is what needs to be fixed. There's always this little delay attached to every action you do in this game.

[complexxL9]

Is this really a latency issue? Or just a failure to understand the mechanics of how the aoe system works in this game?

The game determines if you are "in" the area by your position when the casting bar is 100%. It has nothing to do with the actual animation of the attack itself which is often times take a second our two and then damage is applied afterward. So yes, you may be a mile away from the aoe by the time the animation finishes, but if you were in that area when the bar was full then you will be hit.

If you understand and follow this rule, I don't see how you can go wrong. As a tank I've learned this lesson well and can even use it to my advantage. e.g. I can move out of an aoe well before its finished casting and then move back into the aoe while the animation is going off to prevent the mob from turning.

Even if the bold text was the only problem here, don't you think it needs fixing?

[Sunarie]

The quality isn't perfect, but here are some turn 2 moments I got hit by stuff I was out of. If I need to find more I can go through the 3 hours of recorded stuff I have :/

Mind, we were still able to complete turn 2, and I can still dodge shtuff 85% of the time. Doesn't mean this isn't a problem.

http://www.twitch.tv/sunarierymshek/c/3084552
http://www.twitch.tv/sunarierymshek/c/3084630

[Aaron_T]

I agree, its kind of brong. There really isn't enough dungeons.
Keep in mind though there are still tons of players not even there yet.
I haven't even gotten relic or beaten Garuda HM yet (I haven't even attempted it I want more gear)

Yawn... yeah it is a little boring though.

[vincent1]

I am not really sure what you are talking about Aaron.

this thread is about the issues with the position lag in the game. more or less the position you see on your monitor is not the position the server thinks you are at.

really kind of shows up a lot in any kind of fight (titan especially?) where moving out of a red circle to dodge damage is necessary. people move out of the circle, and then when the damaging spell etc goes off they get hit.

thanks to everybody for the videos. I think these are especially good because they show that we are all not just making up a silly story of some kind. they are great proof as to what is happening, and why we are asking for it to be fixed.

[TheRac25]

The game determines if you are "in" the area by your position when the casting bar is 100%.

This is patently false.

Is this really a latency issue? Or just a failure to understand the mechanics of how the aoe system works in this game?

no its bad game design and you are the one that lacks understanding

[Griffeth]

The game positions you based on when the cast time finishes. This has been tested before.

[Sigred]

This is patently false.

No, it's not. You are wrong. Stand in a landslide until the moment the cast bar finishes, and then haul ass before the animation. You will go over the edge.

Conversely, run into a landslide the second after the cast finishes, and you will not get hit.