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  1. #911
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Well, unless your a software engineer with a bachelor's degree in computer science like myself who custom built their Gaming PC, I can promise you that I don't lag on Titan unless there's a server lag spike that everyone gets, which doesn't always happen when I run titan.

    I will agree that there is a small .3 ish lag on moving around, but other than that there is no issue. And my crap runs so well and so smoothly that the .3 doesn't really matter to me, I get out fine. An I'm running windows 8 with the game in windowed mode which means I have to deal with Always On Vertical Sync.
    Could you run a test please.

    Using fraps or something similar get someone to autofollow you.

    Swing the camera view around so you are looking behind you at the person autofollowing and start fraps.

    Now start running. Keep running for at least 5 seconds. Now stop and wait for the person autofollowing to catch up.

    Upload the video of that so we can see how your PC solves the server lag.

    It would help if we had proof that it's our PC's and spending money on a new rig can gives us a smooth gameplay experience as you claim.
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  2. #912
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    But, the fact that you're posting this proves that you have stayed.

    Unfortunately, people you have to pay to participate in mmo forums, it's really hard to get a sample of how many people have actually quit over the many issues this game has.
    I haven't subbed (big fan of "voting with your wallet") but I'm still here trying to make my voice heard.

    And I'll be here until they fix it or I completely lose my interest in this mess of a game.

    Too bad, it could have been a really, really good game.
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  3. #913
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    Uploading a video as you decribed prooves nothing. Latency works in all mmo's like that. Having someone follow me isn't going to appear that they lag behind, e.g. I move 10 feet before they start following me, that happens in WOW too. That's because of the latency between me moving to the server and to them and them moving to the server and to me. That won't demonstrate anything if I frapsed it. That's internet latency 101. Data does not transmit instantly and that's not the games fault.

    What I should do is get the same 7 guys I ran titan with last night and record our fight where we had Zero deaths till phase 5, and every death in phase 5 was from Bad Spread on the 6 plumes that come out (positionioning) I should upload 2 videos, 1 of the fight with me narrating it, and 1 with the fight with team speak chat. Not hearing that team speak chat is missing out.

    The entire encounter I was calling out every single ability as it was incoming
    P1: Landsldie incoming... Ok stomp next
    Geocrash stack on tank
    P2: Plumes coming spread out from each other as best as possible (cool no one hit), Landslide incoming, Stomp incoming, be ready for plumes next
    Geocrash stack on tank
    P3: etcetc
    p5: Now my tone as increased and I say "Top oFF tank incooming MB, Now medica that stomp, now Run and spread OUT like MAd Shit tons of PLUMES INCOMING"

    Me calling it out is what made it really easy.

    The main problem with titan HM and BCB is communication. And it's rooted from this,

    Square made 1-49 SOOOO EASY, that people go into titan for the first time expecting to face roll it like everything else. Having a fight with complex mechanics where they need, GASP, "Communication", just blows their mind. WHy oh why do we need to do that here when we didn't anywhere else, is something like what they say in the fight.

    I can tell you I've raided in Many MMO's, From FFXI, to Vanguard, WOW, and now FFXIV, and I've never been in a raid where we weren't in a voice chat program (like ventrilo) with a raid leader. Our titan run yesterday I was the raid leader, and we 2 shot it.

    I can also tell you that there were many mechanics in wow raids that were lag/latency/luck reliant. You would hit it or you'd get screwed from latency or a lag spike, just like Titan HM. Sindragosa's Ice Prison's in heroic mode come immediately to mind, and Grobulose's poison trail comes to mind.
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    Last edited by Ryios; 10-12-2013 at 05:10 AM.

  4. #914
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    And having an i7 doesn't mean anything really. What I7, it's unlocked (K on the name) with it overclocked to 4.8ghz? Or is it one of the 2011 8 core pos's with 2.3ghz per core. I7 doesn't mean it's better than an I5, etc etc, tons of variables I could write a book on, like games and threading and how games don't use HT so i7's HT functionality is useless.
    You said: good computers make the lag less noticeable.

    I said: I have a good computer and a PS3 and the netcode lag is the exact same.

    What are you even trying to argue here? Certain generation i7s aren't good enough to avoid the netcode lag on ffxiv? Seriously... this isn't a hardware issue this is a netcode issue.
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  5. #915
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    they have mentioned continuously if you track the dev tracker comments n u will see that they have said they know the issues n they can't just fix everything at once like they have a 1,000,000 employees all working on the issues... have patience, get off the computer n check the sunrise... complaint denied
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  6. #916
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    I like defending bad coding and server issues and coming up with excuses just because my favorite company and franchise does it, despite all the evidence proving me wrong.
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  7. #917
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    If your computer is so good, list it's exact specs, your isp, and go to speedtest.net and do a bandwith test to montreal from your location and list your ping.

    It's a compounded issue, netcode is an issue, but isn;'t the only issue. And you can deal with it if your rig is up to snuff and your ping is under 100. My ping is 44 from Virginia To Montreal, because I know how to optimize my network stack.
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  8. #918
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Uploading a video as you decribed prooves nothing.
    ... this game is as good as WoW for lag?

    You don't seem to understand the point.

    If I am out of the AoE indicator before the cast bar finishes and still take the damage a second later that's a problem. Does that happen in WoW?

    Have you seen the battle logs that show someone healing themselves for 400 and then dying from 200 points of damage from the mob immediately after? (not exact numbers)

    You really want to say that this software is working correctly?
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  9. #919
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    If your computer is so good, list it's exact specs, your isp, and go to speedtest.net and do a bandwith test to montreal from your location and list your ping.
    It parsed 6800 on extreme settings on the benchmark and the netcode lag is just as bad on my PC as it is on the PS3. The netcode is bad. I don't know why you seem to think you should have to have the best ISP and GPU/CPU on the market to play this game without netcode lag.

    And, I live in Canada. I feel bad for people who across the ocean and try to play this game.
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  10. #920
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    I've been reading this thread, and .... I would like to ask, the people who have issues dodging the weight of the lands... Do you guys happen to play wireless? Or are you guys connected? It took me over 20 tries, and a lot of jumping off the side to guys saying they were lagging and couldn't get out the Aoe's, but I was just wondering how many that are having issues are playing on wireless connections? I have 20mb service, and play connected right to the modem. No router or nothing, and usually only got hit by WotL when my controller did a silly auto lock and I moonwalked to my death. LOL
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