Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Syah]

Soooo... SE?

Still nothing? Nothing at all, really? Is it because you have absolutely no clue on how to fix this?

[Ryios]

Formed an All PC Group on TeamSpeak3 Last night for titan HM with Pld, War, Mnk, Blm, Brd, Brd, Whm, Whm. We got to 10% on the first try, and killed him on the 2nd Try without using LB on the heart (with a war in the group). I, being the war, was pulling 160+ dps, more than some drg's I've seen (so war get's a lot of unfair bias on this fight).

The gear requirements we place on the fight was IL60 (AK Gear) or better, and I shouted like "PST me your CPU and Graphics card for Titan Run".... 4 People from FC, most of us with i5-2500k's or better with SSD's and 760GTX+ Nvidia gpus.

I blame the PS3 and Low End PC's.

I'm seriously considering making a program that does a DXDiag and uploads it to my webserver and integrating it with the guild site as a requirement for joining, So people can't fake their DXDiag report...

I feel for people on PS3 who can't afford gaming PC's, but regardless of how unfair it is, the PS3 is underperforming on this game and 9/10 people I see get hit by plumes, their on PS3 and not in TeamSpeak with us. I'm literally to the point where I don't even want to be in the same group with people on a PS3, nothing personal. But playing on the PS3 takes a lot more skill than PC, because you need to work around the lag and preemptively react to every boss ability.

And to anyone lagging on PC, either
1. Your PC is underpowered (low amd gpu, budget cpu)
2. Your ON Wifi on a bad ISP
3. Your tethered to your phone
4. Or your geographically for from the servers, (E.g. EU).

People in the US, east/central on decent PC's shouldn't have issues dodging titan.

There are also tricks you can do to decrease latency. I tweaked my nic's driver settings and disabled nagle's algorithm and got my game latency down to 44 miliseconds, I live in nothern virginia.

The EU really just needs it's own rack of servers that aren't on the other side of an ocean.

[Evangela]

make the server do the last position check when aoe actually come out, check where we are at the moment that aoe hit, not where we were 2-3 seconds ago.

[Warstryke]

This issue and SE not doing anything to fix it ASAP is causing many players to quit, gg.

[reality_check]

The gear requirements we place on the fight was IL60 (AK Gear) or better, and I shouted like "PST me your CPU and Graphics card for Titan Run".... 4 People from FC, most of us with i5-2500k's or better with SSD's and 760GTX+ Nvidia gpus.

I blame the PS3 and Low End PC's.

Netcode deals with strictly information. It has nothing to do with your hardware performance. It's how your client talks to the server.

[Syah]

There are no words to express the dumb in this post. You need an SSD to avoid Titan AoE? Are you for serious?

Netcode deals with strictly information. It has nothing to do with your hardware performance. It's how your client talks to the server.

Indeed... Ryios is basically stating that anyone with a PS3 cannot play this game correctly...

[Ryios]

If it has to do with netcode. How come I can stand in a plume and walk out and not get hit with 99.999999% success? I got hit 1 time the entire fight and that was phase 5 when I got boxed in between plumes and a bomb and I had to choose (eat 1 plume or eat the bomb, I chose the plume).

At first, during all the fail runs I agreed mostly with the statements in this thread, because everyone was getting hit but me. But after the group last night of all pcs and no one getting hit by plumes until phase 5, I don't think it has anything to do with netcode.

Ok maybe it could be more effecient, but if your latency is low enough, and your CPU is fast enough you can dodge crap just fine.

And for hardware not mattering.... Yes it does. You do realize that the network stack in windows is software processed right (e.g. it runs on your CPU). Stuff goes out your nic and comes in your nic, but get's processed on your CPU. So if the netcode is indeed bloated

(e.g.)...

100 MOB | TITAN | ABILITY | WEIGHT OF THE LAND | START TIMER
instead of
000000010000000001000000100000003000001

Then yeah, having a Faster CPU does matter, because a fast CPU Can parse crappy server responses faster than a crappy CPU can do it, thus you get out of stuff they can't.

[Sunarie]

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Yet another one of the people arguing the wrong thing. Yes, the fight is doable right now, but you can't rely on the on-screen indicators. Yes, you can move out of plumes, but if you aren't out by the last probably.. 1/4th to 1/8th of the cast bar then you will get hit regardless of if you're out when the cast actually finishes.

There is lag. Play the game side by side with someone and watch how long it takes to show an action you've done on their computer. Better yet, watch the cast bars of people in your party. Without fail it always looks like casts are interrupted (that's the whole lag thing). I've beat Titan, my FC is downing it regularly now. Just because it's possible doesn't mean there isn't an issue. People should be able to rely strictly on the indicators we're given in game.

This has been accepted in the bug forum, Yoshi himself has said that the server only checks your location every .3 seconds. Why do people keep denying it's a thing?

[Gamina]

I have three set ups here that can all play the game. A very good gaming rig, a vaio laptop I use for work and a PS3. Whatever I play on yields the same issues. Tell me that the issue is my geographic position and fine, but that will not cut it as a solution "Sorry you cannot progress you do not live next door to the server" will not cut it for a lot of players. My connection is very very good and always has been on the long list of MMOs I play who's servers are located all around the world.

Even if the issue was PS3 holding the game back what percentage of players do you think play on ps3? They aren't going to be able to ignore it if thats the issue.

[Cryvil]

170ms ping and I've been hit by landslide up to 1.2 seconds after leaving the AoE. But to be perfectly honest? I love it this way. Weep for those who haven't had to deal with this..because they're playing the game on easy mode and they'll never get to experience this. An already brilliant fight is made so much more brutally unforgiving because of this, and I love every second. It makes me nostalgic for the old cartridge-era battles in its difficulty. If this is just about getting your relics, get some guildies to carry you through or(uhg) pay people for it. But please don't make Square fix this. Accept this awful server design as unintentionally giving us an exhilarating challenge, not as something ruining the game. Please believe me, even if Titan chose his attacks randomly(AWESOME) instead of fixed, this is something that can be triumphed over. Put aside questions of gil per hour, put aside questions of wasted time. Do people play FPSes for some reward? MOABs? Angry Birds? Freecell?