Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Unruhe]

You don't turn to face them to move while you're casting. I mean, of course you face them when you cast, but if they run around to your back, you don't turn to them, do you?

No, you don't. In fact, at least with certain control setups, you can't turn AT ALL while casting. This makes casting with poor positioning checks exceptionally awful. If you aren't properly squared to your target (or if your target moves even slightly too far to the left or right of center) then the spell will fail. And that's assuming you were firmly planted -- if you run, stop, and immediately cast there's an odds-on chance that the cast will "interrupt" a half-second in because the last time the server bothered to check where you were, you were in a different position, so it thinks you're still moving and cancels the cast.

[reality_check]

We're not talking about ping, we're talking about how frequently the server updates your positioning.

Position is the only a small amount of the netcode. There is a delay in many other aspects of the netcode. Some paladins have a very difficult time interrupting Ifrit HM because of this. Interruptions in PVP with these types of MMORPGs come down to the millisecond. There is no chance a Paladin will be able to keep up with any healer that is baiting an interrupt as they can cast, cancel, and recast within milliseconds. Even with WoW's near flawless netcode interrupting someone who baits well comes down to crossing your fingers and hoping the server reads your actions at the right time.

[reality_check]

No, you don't. In fact, at least with certain control setups, you can't turn AT ALL while casting.

If you use a controller, I believe you can use the lock on feature to avoid this.

[Steeled]

I don't play a mage much so made sure to test this before I spoke any further, but no you're misunderstanding.

If you and I are fighting, Monk v Blackmage and both locked on to each other, that allows me to easily circle strafe around you, but if you cast a spell at me, it will auto-face me, however, if i run around you while you're casting your character will not keep looking at me and if you finish the cast while i'm out of whatever conal range they have set, your casting will be interrupted.

If I'm not locked on you I can just run back and forth through you.

[reality_check]

I don't play a mage much so made sure to test this before I spoke any further, but no you're misunderstanding.

If you and I are fighting, Monk v Blackmage and both locked on to each other, that allows me to easily circle strafe around you, but if you cast a spell at me, it will auto-face me, however, if i run around you while you're casting your character will not keep looking at me and if you finish the cast while i'm out of whatever conal range they have set, your casting will be interrupted.

If I'm not locked on you I can just run back and forth through you.

If this is indeed the case (that a caster being locked onto a character who moves through them midcast will not turn to face them) then circle strafing will never interrupt spells. It would be too game breaking since controllers don't have the right mouse button to turn the character without moving them. But this is a discussion for another thread.

[Steeled]

But it does with mobs already.

And this is SE.

We're currently 54 pages into your thread where you have to predict a fight because dodging "red" zones, fundamental to the combat of this game, isn't working.

So yeah, it will probably launch that way and mages will never be able to get a spell off unless their target is bound, slept, far away, or not a good pvp'er.

[Silverwalk]

And think about the melee too. You run up to someone and attack. They are right in front of you but the server says the attack fails, "out of range", because the enemy player moved during the lag+latency.

[Nexxa]

No sort of acknowledgement yet, huh? Rediculous.

[Kommunist]

They can keep pretending its all ok, and ignore this thread. But once more and more people get to 50 and starts experiencing this frustration, they better have an answer ready.
-from someone done titan multiple times, and can avoid 90% of the time, i still think this is NOT ok

[Dano]

why do the other threads with 8 page or so gets a community rep response while this is still being ignored?