Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Luffia]

I have honestly, not had a problem in titan.

People like to blame the game when they screw up.

Yeah, pretty much this~ It's like the people who d/c while playing then log on and blame it on the servers.. when everyone else is connected just fine. But don't tell them it might be their ISP, they'll s**t a brick and throw a fit. Threads like these are just bad players playing bad. The thing is though, SE will cater to them and they will nerf Titan, then they'll start complaining about how hard stuff hits in the coil, or start complaining that you need to stack specific jobs in coil turn 4, it will never end.

Edit:
Also, to all the players claiming Yoshi acknowledges this problem, what do you expect him to say? "You guys just suck."... Of course he's not going to outright say that.. He's going to spoon feed you the answers you want, it's bad business practices to do anything else. But fear not, I'm sure the next patch will probably double the charge time for Weight of the Land so you guys can all make your way to the coil, only to wipe on the very first ADS and return to the forums demanding a nerf.

[Silverwalk]

Also, to all the players claiming Yoshi acknowledges this problem, what do you expect him to say? "You guys just suck."... Of course he's not going to outright say that.. He's going to spoon feed you the answers you want

That's your argument? Yoshi is lying to us to spare our feelings?

Hahaha - That's the weakest argument I've seen yet.

Most of the people are not asking for nerfs, contrary to what you're saying.

Obviously discussing this has become pointless, we have the "it's the players fault" people like you and video evidence that says otherwise.

We will have to agree to disagree. IMO they can't fix it so I don't see any point in discussing it further.

[OxTitan]

we have the "it's the players fault" people like you and video evidence that says otherwise.

If you've actually watched the video with the bard closely, you can see that the player wasn't out of the weight during it's cast time. If you pause it at the right time, you can clearly see the cast time is over with the player still 3 or 4 steps inside the weight. The damage does not get applied to the player until the animation is complete, which is why it looks like lag.

If everyone was able to record themselves doing this fight and review the video closely, then they would be able to see clearly where their mistakes are.

People get tunnel visioned to easily and lose sight of what the mechanics are. I've notice myself losing focus and not paying attention and getting caught by aoes. When I do pay attention I never get hit by them.

I have not beaten Titan, but I don't blame SE, I blame the undergeared pugs I get grouped with and my own mistakes.

Edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsHuXAl-bOY
At 6:21 landslide cast begins
At 6:22 player leaves aoe with cast bar at 75%
At 6:24 player is hit by landslide and knocked off

They kind of lied about removing animation locks. Animations locks seem to be still there but it's no longer called animation locks. It's more like a positional lock, where if your character is still doing animations that started in the AoE outside of it when the casting has finished then they will still get hit because they are still being registered as being inside the AoE.

I watched this video really closely and that's what I saw. People who have defeated Titan have already come up with a way to bypass this and it is to try to cast another spell when you've gotten out the AoE ability or just dont cast anything at all and just run out of it.

[snowyy1337]

I did titan hard and its one big lag fest but its pretty fking hard with 100+ ms and the 30-50ms built in, the ppl with even worse net wud prob have 200ms and its not acceptablel to make such boss when we get forced to play on shitty canadian fk servers!.

Tried alot of times where ppl just froze and then 2 sec later titan made landslide which was already done and it was poiting at me and i had no chance of dodging that so yeah CYA!... the power of shit servers!

SE GET ME SOME SERVERS IN EU! not 5000km away from EU compared to if they had placed one in their HQ in london or in germany it wud be 400-800km away with 28ms.

And who the fk host 5 servers call them EU and then host the servers on the other side on earth... SE where is the logic in that? even an indie MMO company cud do that better.

[Silverwalk]

If you've actually watched the video with the bard closely, you can see that the player wasn't out of the weight during it's cast time. If you pause it at the right time, you can clearly see the cast time is over with the player still 3 or 4 steps inside the weight. The damage does not get applied to the player until the animation is complete, which is why it looks like lag.

I don't know which video you're referring to, but check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsHuXAl-bOY
At 6:21 landslide cast begins
At 6:22 player leaves aoe with cast bar at 75%
At 6:24 player is hit by landslide and knocked off

Freeze just after the player leaves the AoE, cast bar is 75% - landslide.

[Silverwalk]

They kind of lied about removing animation locks. Animations locks seem to be still there but it's no longer called animation locks. It's more like a positional lock, where if your character is still doing animations that started in the AoE outside of it when the casting has finished then they will still get hit because they are still being registered as being inside the AoE.

I watched this video really closely and that's what I saw. People who have defeated Titan have already come up with a way to bypass this and it is to try to cast another spell when you've gotten out the AoE ability or just dont cast anything at all and just run out of it.

Yes i think that's true. I've suggested that a simple way to fix the problem would be for the client to send a position update when the player crosses the AoE boundary, which has the same affect as what you're describing.

It would probably solve the problem for a lot of people.

[-Magister]

Yes i think that's true. I've suggested that a simple way to fix the problem would be for the client to send a position update when the player crosses the AoE boundary, which has the same affect as what you're describing.

It would probably solve the problem for a lot of people.

It almost seems as though we have enough people on threads like this alone that could figure out how to code this better, or network it better that there is no reason we should not hear something about this issue.

P.S. To people saying honesty is bad marketing, it sure is, but silence is worse marketing; Market wise it would be best to come out every couple of months and say they are working on it and post a bunch of BS jargon that will keep people thinking "Ok, ONE MORE MONTH and I am unsubbing!" Instead silence has made people start thinking "Well, this is not going to be fixed, I'm not alone, time to find a new game.". Or fix the problem..

[Saerie]

blah blah blah.

Best example of Etilism here my friends, So you think you are better than everyone else just because you're one of the lucky people that isn't affected by this?
Theres a limit to being ignorant, You don't undersand the main issue here do you? It's not just Titan it happens on every monster on this game that has aoe skills.
So you honestly think that all of us are that "bad" that we cant even dodge normal mobs aoe's properly? Most normal mob aoe's I can get out of easily,
but I'm quite sure many people are having trouble with them. You don't see me calling them bad or they suck because I know there is a problem with the server.
You can't also mean everyone who has this problem has bad ISP/Internet? Some might, but this many people?
are you kidding me? I've played tons of games with different kinds of AOE mechanics and have never encountered an Issue like this.
I've been using the same ISP for it.
So you still think its our internet? Not being rude, but your head cant think of anything better for a reason so you just go with the "These players must suck, It's probably the ISP/Internet's fault".

What's funny is the game itself never lags for me NEVER have I encountered lag,damage,skill delays. But when it comes to these aoe's there's just something wrong.Really just get out of this thread, You're just making yourself look stupid. Sorry I dont know if you're just trolling but your post is just plain annoying.
If you don't have this problem you don't have to make rude assumptions and tell everyone that they are bad. Sometimes it's better to just shut up. Unless you love being hated by people.

Also don't give us the crap that yoshi is just sugarcoating things for us, Maybe with your horrible attitude you would probably do that, but don't assume others do.

[xCroiz]

Also, to all the players claiming Yoshi acknowledges this problem, what do you expect him to say? "You guys just suck."... Of course he's not going to outright say that.. He's going to spoon feed you the answers you want, it's bad business practices to do anything else. But fear not, I'm sure the next patch will probably double the charge time for Weight of the Land so you guys can all make your way to the coil, only to wipe on the very first ADS and return to the forums demanding a nerf.

I skimmed this thread and i didn't see any single person saying about titan nerf besides this one. What ppl ask is to fix this delay so we can fight it properly. Why are you even suggesting this? Or you're the one who need this badly?

[TheRac25]

I skimmed this thread and i didn't see any single person saying about titan nerf besides this one. What ppl ask is to fix this delay so we can fight it properly. Why are you even suggesting this? Or you're the one who need this badly?

yeah how bout they make it random and then all the people saying you have to predict stuff will be in the same boat