Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Xbob42]

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Great, you beat HM Titan. So did I, with a PUG no less, while the servers were doing their insane lagging earlier and people were having 5+ seconds of random freezing. We didn't pretend the lag didn't exist, though, like you're doing, because we're not children defending their favorite toy.

Quit deflecting the core-level problem of the server only checking your location every .3 seconds. (Which means with a ping of ZERO, you still have a minimum effective ping of 300.)

Show me a video of you dodging a move just as it finishes. No moving early, you moving right at the last second, you, in all honesty, moving out before the move finishes, but juuuuust before, as the bar is 95-99% full.

You won't, because you can't, because it's impossible, because your base ping is 300+ping-to-server.

That is not good. No matter how you deflect it, no matter how many times you call people scrubs, no matter how inflated your childlike ego is.

[Moonwood]

Hmmm, I've done titan well over 100 times and I've died a total of maybe 3 or 4 times? A couple of those were also due to bad meteor timing on my part.

That being said, maybe you should just...play better? >.>;

I really hope this game doesn't succumb to the crying of the forums. I will be highly disappointed if this simply becomes FFXIV; World of Warcraft edition. The current end game content almost demands perfect play, and that's the way it should be.

You have nothing to do on this part of the forum. Get lost. For real. If you don't suffer the problem and sprouting garbage for make you feel good over us which suffering from it, you are truly an idiot. Go troll somewhere else.

[Silverwalk]

Man I love the threads of bad players blaming lag on their deaths for titan HM. Even if it was lag (which 90% of the cases it isn't), that fight is so ridiculously easy and predictable that anyone with half a brain can do it. Here's a tip, watch the HM fights on Youtube, grab a pen and paper, and write down every single move he does in the order it appears. That will never change. Congrats, you learned how to anticipate Titan's Weight of the Land before it even starts!

I thought about explaining this to you, but then I realized that it's already been covered dozens of times already here. If you don't understand it now, then you are probably not capable of understanding it.

Fortunately the developers understand it: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-everybody%29

I can predict the attacks just fine and win fights and my reaction time is faster than average, you can test yours here:
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

Here's my results:
Total Tries: 5
Average: 209.8

Here is a simple exercise for you:
Yoshi during the beta said this:

Visually noticeable AoE attacks that you can avoid by moving

You said:

Congrats, you learned how to anticipate Titan's Weight of the Land before it even starts!

Can you spot the difference?

[Moonwood]

Man I love the threads of bad players blaming lag on their deaths for titan HM. Even if it was lag (which 90% of the cases it isn't), that fight is so ridiculously easy and predictable that anyone with half a brain can do it. Here's a tip, watch the HM fights on Youtube, grab a pen and paper, and write down every single move he does in the order it appears. That will never change. Congrats, you learned how to anticipate Titan's Weight of the Land before it even starts!

Same quote as the guy on top. Get lost. Read Yoshi's post about the issue. If you can't read that it's REAL and not FAKE, then buy new pair of glasses. Don't open a topic if you don't feel part of it or if you don't have knowledge on what's going on. If Square said there is an issue and if players are affected by it. What are you arguing about? That white is black no more no less.

[Mishayangg]

EDIT: Thanks to the person who added this link to the discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4T...ature=youtu.be

EDIT: Thanks also to the person who added this link to the discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFfu0i89gpI

Please like or bump this thread if you are having a problem with this issue. We have to communicate to SE that we're not happy with the current net code/engine design that is causing this game to lose its appeal very fast.

Tried this and it works!

"There is a simple way to make sure this doesn't happen. You need to cast a spell once you've left the AOE's area and the sever will register your new position. The moment you leave the area start casting and you will never be hit."

[Alise]

On both of the video link at the first post, you have to look at the titan cast bar. I think it is a bad design on SE part, but many old players know this that the game graphic show slower than what it acknowledge into the server. Above the titan 's HP, you see the skill cast bar right? if you avoid it before the cast bar reach its end point, then you dodge it. If you are still there when the cast time end, then you gonna get hit regardless of what you see in the animation graphic which take whole 1-2 sec slower.

I agree that it is bad mechanic design on SE part. However, it is not hard to avoid it. You just have to predict it coming and be ready to dodge as soon as it pop up. In both video, you standing there about 0.5-1 sec before you start moving. It is too slow to the reaction time that this mechanic give us.

[Vektrat]

I made a thread again demanding an answer to all these issues with all the threads of the same type compiled in it:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ific-answer%29

If it gets deleted for not having a format or whatever I'll remake it in the general forum.

[Sneakaboo]

I made a thread again demanding an answer to all these issues with all the threads of the same type compiled in it:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ific-answer%29

If it gets deleted for not having a format or whatever I'll remake it in the general forum.

They blame the ISP/Down load throttling and what not but after talking with my ISP and both running checks it's all SE.

[Silverwalk]

On both of the video link at the first post, you have to look at the titan cast bar. I think it is a bad design on SE part, but many old players know this that the game graphic show slower than what it acknowledge into the server. Above the titan 's HP, you see the skill cast bar right? if you avoid it before the cast bar reach its end point, then you dodge it. If you are still there when the cast time end, then you gonna get hit regardless of what you see in the animation graphic which take whole 1-2 sec slower.

I'm sorry but while it is true that the ground graphic is out of sync, using the cast bar does not solve the problem.

I'll try to find some video's on youtube.

Heres a good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0
At 1:15 you can see he is out of the AoE at cast bar 60% and still gets hit by the AoE.

Heres one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moRY8M5T1pE
At 0:22 he clears the AoE with the landslide cast bar at 95%
At 0:23 he is hit by burst for 3394
At 0:24 he is hit by landslide for 2634

To the OP: could you add the lin to the first video please - it clearly shows the problems.

edit: a third video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsHuXAl-bOY
At 6:22 - player leaves aoe at 75% landslide cast bar and still gets knocked off

[Jinko]

Hmmm, I've done titan well over 100 times and I've died a total of maybe 3 or 4 times? A couple of those were also due to bad meteor timing on my part.

That being said, maybe you should just...play better? >.>;

I really hope this game doesn't succumb to the crying of the forums. I will be highly disappointed if this simply becomes FFXIV; World of Warcraft edition. The current end game content almost demands perfect play, and that's the way it should be.

Nobody is asking for the fight to be made easier,,,,, where do you people learn to read ?

We asking they fix the latency issues on their servers.

This isn't just about Titan its about other fights and future content as well.

I don't think they need to add more time, they just need the client to send a position update when you clear the aoe.

Having said that there is an interesting point here. These encounter's are designed and tested in Japan with maybe 20-30ms ping time (guessing). After all the server lag is taken into account they allow a certain amount of time for the player to react.

If they allow 400ms to react that seems pretty good. Human reaction time is around 200ms so that's double what most people need. So they allow 200ms of extra time, sounds pretty good.

So now someone playing with 100ms ping time will have the allowed time reduced to 320ms minus human reaction time leaving 120ms of extra time. That's nearly half what they had in Japan.

At 200ms ping time the allowed reaction is now 220ms, minus human reaction time leaves 20ms of extra time.

Over 200ms ping and you now have to react faster than the normal human reaction time. Houston I think we may have a problem.

edit: the point I'm making here is that making an encounter "hard" by testing the player's reaction time can't work when player's have different ping times.

The game should be testing that you know what to do, not that you can react at super-human speeds (when your ping time goes over 200ms).

Problem with this is that it actually makes the game easier, If SE just fixed their internal latency issues or updated the character positions every 30ms in hardmode content there wouldn't be an issue.