Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Vektrat]

Having played LOTRO where they closed the EU data centre and moved the servers to NA, it was actually very noticeable. My ping went from about 50-60 to around 120-150, which on the face of things was not a problem, after all it was not an FPS & 120-150 ping is fine, in theory, however what became apparent is that the performance when having to connect to NA was less stable, less consistent, so people got more lag spikes, larger lag spikes and sometimes packet loss, in all it was very noticeable.

It was also significantly worse for those that lived in less favourable countries for connecting to NA, I live in the UK so was lucky in that regard, however we had people in our guild that were from places like Poland, Russia, etc and it was very noticeable that they were impacted more by the server move, to the point many simply quit the game.

I will try again, for the last time... There's over 70 pages to check for INFINITE information, if people still can't see the problem, then I'll start to believe maybe the devs are in the same sac.

Quoting myself:

Other games having EU servers and you having low pings, doesn't imply that the low ping to the other game's EU dataservers is the reason for no delay.

It IS true that EU datacentres would help, but this comes AFTER.

Having new Datacentres is probably 5% of the real and serious issue going on in here. Yes, it would help, but you would not notice it, trust me.

Rephrasing with more evident hints:
1) Going from 200-300 ping to 50-100 -> Noticeable
2) Fixing server lag -> Noticeable

Now let's combine them
Fixing 1 and not 2 -> Noticeable
Fixing 2 and not 1 -> Noticeable
Fixing 1 and 2 -> Noticeable

And I would have liked to make the last two font sizes closer in size, and the first even smaller.

You are claiming that fixing datacentre also comes with other line quality advantages such as removal of lagspikes, etc.

There's ping, there's speed, and then there's line quality; the quality of the line that links us (anyone, be it from overseas or not, and talking about the common links, not specific ISP stuff, if your ISP sucks in general, it will obviously suck with FFXIV too) is pretty decent from what we have collected, and no one in the representative group is suffering from lagspikes (leaving apart guys affected by specific ISP throttling, etc. - I'm sorry for those issues as well, you got my support).

Even if the servers are moved to your city, you will still have game inconsistencies due to the network, you will see people stuttering/sliding when running around, you will see people "eating" AEs but having dodge them, you will see people dying to AEs then moving the corpse in a post-death miracle, your heals will still land when the tank is dead, and you will still hear the +LB bonus when this happens.

For the last time: People complaining about PING, you're talking about something completely different from what people in this thread is complaining! (and I state this assuming there is no other major issues in check, such as weird ISP management, weird client status, etc.) - We're talking about GAME DESIGN (mostly from a network perspective).

[Dylfin]

yeah, fucking bots everywhere....

[Demear]

Well last night I had the most lag I have seen in any game for many,many years. I could not dodge any attacks, now maybe like some have said in other post's that I may fall into the category of just not being very good or just a little slow... but even if that were the case, surely even a bad player can have a lucky dodge every now and again???

So for me SE has 1 month to sort whatever it is that is making what would be an awesome game into the piece of crap it is... There is no way I'm going to pay a monthly fee for something that is clearly not working....

[mmdc]

This game is focus on Graphic rather than somethings behind the user's front end.
As a network programmer (not for game), I understand/guess a bit about the problem and think that they cannot fix this problem soon.
Unlike some "high quality" games (from blizzard) this game does not have the network compensation and all the "action logics" are acted and controlled on server.
In order to reduce the action lagging, the logic should be in client side and be controlled by server (it means that server would observe the clients actions and roll back few seconds if it detects the actions is abnormal).
To fix the problem they need to redesign the gaming network architecture of the whole game. It costs time and money, therefore they did mention the problem long time ago but not fixed it till now.
I guess I will have a long time break for the fix.

[Saburo]

I'm having a hard time with lags too. Titan is just a matter of luck at some point.
I know the order of its attacks so I anticipate, but it can only take me so far...
I really hope SE fix this because once I start doing harder stuff with my FC i don't want to be a dead weight.
I want hard content, but I also want the means to takle it!

Did a mod ever responded to this issue? I might have missed it, but I feel like we're being ignored.

[Nexxa]

Did a mod ever responded to this issue? I might have missed it, but I feel like we're being ignored.

Nope. They're ignoring it and hoping it'll go away.

[complexxL9]

Nope. They're ignoring it and hoping it'll go away.

And it will go away, after most of us leaves ^^

[CrstyCaptin]

Problem is the 300ms position polling. Don't know why they thought something this slow would be ok for creating content like titan. It's like being given a steak to eat and only have a butter knife to cut it with. A very dull butter knife.

[Nexxa]

Problem is the 300ms position polling. Don't know why they thought something this slow would be ok for creating content like titan. It's like being given a steak to eat and only have a butter knife to cut it with. A very dull butter knife.

Seems more like a spoon at this point.

[Meimei]

Really late to the discussion here, but I suffered from the exact same latency issues described here. I'd get hit by most red AoEs well after I already moved out of them.

However, by reducing the game's resolution (tho I don't get why overlay/font size needs to be tied to that, it's never been in any other game I played), the latency and lag has since become more tolerable. I've been able to avoid the pain much more reliably, even tho the game's a lot uglier to look at now.

Likely not a concrete solution, but it might help alleviate the issues many of you are having. Hope this helps~