Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Majidah]

Ok let's forget about Titan normal mode. I agree with you, if you wipe enough time and that you use your brain, you can figure out and prevent your death as he doesn't do things randomly. Now HM Titan is another story.

No no, it's on HM titan I was talking about. I only ran easy mode for my one story clear lol

But the real problem to me is Demon Wall. The slow and damage hitting me is just terrible and you are stuck in a corridor where no place is safe. I'm a mage so I don't have instant cast, like another person noticed, the spell you interrupt is still considered being cast inside the aoe, the refreshment is better on spell apparently than your position. But moving out and casting another spell right away is extremely hard to do. Unlike you being an archer most of your spell are instant so it will refresh that spell/skill position and by the same time your spot WAY better than I do.

Honestly I don't think demon wall has latency problems at al... it's very easy to dodge the lines. Middle, sides, middle, sides, pushback.
For insta-cast you should get swift cast, but usually just save it for raise and such. Slow should be dispelled by your healer.

I've done Demon Wall more times as scholar than as archer. Basically you want to hit a succor before the knockback, and one RIGHT before so it ends casting after being pushed back.
Running into the poison is preferable than getting hit by the bee AOE. Keep one bee on one side, burn the other on the opposite with a DD LB if available.

If damage permits you can ignore the bees and burn the wall down. If your DPS is low, you will run out of MP.

[Moonwood]

Thanks Dano I will try to do it the way you advice it. And also make THM the right level. If it work, you will remove a big thorn from my butt.

[Jinko]

So you hope a SE loses a shit ton of subs, again, and the game near flops, again. You sir can get lost instead.

Although I don't think its the right attitude to take, its most likely what will happen, I was fed up of Ifrit and Coincounter in 1.0 and to see the issues are still here is really sad, I have subbed for 180 days, I can only hope that it wasn't a waste of money.

SE don't let me down, at least give us some information on what you plan to do to fix this. (This silence is doing nobody any good)

[Raxion]

To clarify, you have to be out of the Red-Zone before it disappears, not before the attack goes off. If you don't make it out of the Red-Zone with around a second to spare, you might as well just stop moving and take your death like a man. Most people seem to think that the Red-Zones are just indicators of where the attack is going to land when the enemy fires it off. It's actually a visual timer. You have to get clear of it before it disappears.

You need a good reaction speed to play this game. It can be very punishing if you don't.

[Jinko]

To clarify, you have to be out of the Red-Zone before it disappears, not before the attack goes off. If you don't make it out of the Red-Zone with around a second to spare, you might as well just stop moving and take your death like a man. Most people seem to think that the Red-Zones are just indicators of where the attack is going to land when the enemy fires it off. It's actually a visual timer. You have to get clear of it before it disappears.

You need a good reaction speed to play this game. It can be very punishing if you don't.

Come on ! you think people don't know you have to be clear of the red marker before it disappears ? what do you take us for ?

Even so that is not the problem as the visual markers don't match up with the cast bars and the servers don't force a character position check before and after the move goes off.

As someone earlier mentioned this would be a good solution, instead of us having to fake a server check by using a skill or facetarget it would make more sense for the server check to be built into every boss/monster action. (but before this happens they need to get those visual cues and cast bars in sync)

[Warlyx]

the problem is that even if u are out of the red circle , sometimes i still get hit is annoying as hell wiping because even tho u are like 5M away u still get damaged.

Lag is a problem? yeah , but even at 300~ i shouldnt being hited by an aoe that i avoided sucessfully.

the "dont stop running" is a bandaid , sometimes work for u , sometimes AGAINST you , running into a 2-3 puddle zone ....

[Inferiae]

I'm really curious why not make the AoE damage something client-side. I mean, let the client do all the calculations and send the result to the server. It makes cheating easier, but ends this annoying problem.
Basically, when the client receives information about AoE, the client checks if the player is inside the area or not. When finished, send results to server and the player takes the hit or don't.

PS: Probably unfair for PvP, but just talking about PvE and dungeons here.

[TheRac25]

the problem is that even if u are out of the red circle , sometimes i still get hit is annoying as hell wiping because even tho u are like 5M away u still get damaged.

Lag is a problem? yeah , but even at 300~ i shouldnt being hited by an aoe that i avoided sucessfully.

the "dont stop running" is a bandaid , sometimes work for u , sometimes AGAINST you , running into a 2-3 puddle zone ....

the internal server lag is around 500ms, this is ontop of the 0-300ms for the client position update interval and whatever your internet latency is to the server, dont ask how i know this but i do
i doubt it will be fixed without a total redesign of the server systems (wich they said they were doing but didnt)

[frostfairy]

lol have this problem in most all dungeons....im a good double the distance from the aoe or line red area of death and bam....fall over dead 2-3 times the distance from where it went off from....and its getting REALLLLLLLY old realllllly fast....stopped running stuff and started crafting was pissing me off so much

[Earthen]

I'm really curious why not make the AoE damage something client-side. I mean, let the client do all the calculations and send the result to the server. It makes cheating easier, but ends this annoying problem.
Basically, when the client receives information about AoE, the client checks if the player is inside the area or not. When finished, send results to server and the player takes the hit or don't.

PS: Probably unfair for PvP, but just talking about PvE and dungeons here.

Nothing affecting actual game results can be client side, or cheating begins immediately. What they probably do need is a bit more leeway in the cast times, they should be a bit longer to compensate for lag issues. Additionally, and I don't know how feasible this is, but having the clients issue a position update more often at least during certain parts of the game like boss fights in dungeons, could help.