Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Unruhe]

It's not just Titan, it's everything,

My lowlights just from yesterday include:

AK - Final boss - The massive AOE attack killed me... while I was standing with the group, perfectly behind the back-right statue. My corpse was actually in the only "safe" spot on the map.
WP - First boss - The goobbue's red circle nearly always hits me, no matter how quickly and far I move away from the red circle.
CM - First boss and all magitek armor trash - Magitek Cannon attack regularly hits me even if I move out of the circle.

It's a pretty significant problem. The server should be checking your position with the client whenever it needs to decide if you took damage, not just guessing based on polling data that occurs in intervals.

[ProJumper]

I have no problem to hide from AoE. But I see a lot of scrubs that stay and when they red AoE circle comes, they still stay there like 1-2 sec then they run but then the AoE make dmg on them.

Be quicker.

[Unruhe]

I have no problem to hide from AoE. But I see a lot of scrubs that stay and when they red AoE circle comes, they still stay there like 1-2 sec then they run but then the AoE make dmg on them.

Be quicker.

You do realize that the internet isn't a magical device that allows you and everyone else using it to see everything in true real time, right? When you see a person moving, you're seeing them move after:

The server gives indication (red circle) that another player should move.
That player's computer receives the information from the server.
They start moving.
Their signal reaches the server.
The server sends that info to you.
You computer receives that info.

A lot of AOE attacks in this game happen very quickly and they allow no time for dallying, but they also have a zero-tolerance policy for any kind of latency. Finding out about this .3-second update and that the client doesn't actually care whether you moved out of the AOE "in time" but rather if you moved out of the AOE "in time for the terrible netcode to poll your position again before the attack goes off" is not a player skill issue, that's a game code issue.

Watch the video linked in the OP. If you think that player should have taken damage when and where she did, then you have only ever played terrible games.

[Rydin]

If you've ever seen a dead body slide across the screen...

Do I even need to go on?

[Silverwalk]

If you've ever seen a dead body slide across the screen...

Do I even need to go on?

It's funny when I first did Ifrit and hit the server lag problem I had a ls-mate send me a video to show me how to run out of the cracks (?!).

I watched the video and what did I see in the background? People dying in the eruption and their dead bodies sliding half-way across the circle!

He hadn't even realized that he was seeing the lag.

edit: after I realized what the problem was I simply learnt to keep moving to avoid the eruptions. Terrible solution I know but I doubt that SE will ever be able to fix this problem in their code. It's been there for a long long time now.

[Kupofried]

Here's some proof that the issue is so annoying that i can actually capture it on a screenshot:




how long till you figure out whats wrong in this picture?

[KikInperi]

I have no problem to hide from AoE. But I see a lot of scrubs that stay and when they red AoE circle comes, they still stay there like 1-2 sec then they run but then the AoE make dmg on them.

Be quicker.

No one cares, that's not what we're talking about here.

[Silverwalk]

I have no problem to hide from AoE. But I see a lot of scrubs that stay and when they red AoE circle comes, they still stay there like 1-2 sec then they run but then the AoE make dmg on them.

Be quicker.

Funny thing is - you're seeing the poor server response and not understanding what you' re seeing. So you really think people are standing and waiting in the red? Of course not, they are moving but it took time for their movement to get to the server and then to you.

If you ever get the chance put two computers side-by-side both running FFXIV, move your char and wait until you see that in your buddy's computer. You would be amazed how long the delay is. That's the "1-2 sec" you're talking about.

Edit: as many have said the devs have accepted this as a bug.

Are you saying the devs are wrong too? Maybe you should call them "scrubs" as well.

[dascorp]

another reason as to why 1.0 was remade... was, because of this very same issue... lag/latency.... oh look they didnt fix shit from 1.0....

[M4Fade]

another reason as to why 1.0 was remade... was, because of this very same issue... lag/latency.... oh look they didnt fix shit from 1.0....

This. ^
This is one of the things that bothers me most. Shit.

As others have said, specifically Rydin, there is DELAY is every damn thing you do in this game. It is not fluid like Tera, or WoW, or even Vindictus.. and they used to have user hosted instance servers. F2P games are straight rockin' SE on the network department. Come on now. There was delay in FFXI, there was delay in FFXIV 1.0, and now there's delay in the new and "improved" FFXIV ARR.

I play 4 feet from my girlfriend, I can watch both of our screens at the same time. The delay is just nasty. She jumps, I see her jump half a second later. I mount up and get a second head start, I'm way behind her on her screen. Our computer hardware is near top-notch and we have a 28 Down/10 Up high-speed cable internet connection in California.

I think we all just expect more from a company like Square-Enix. Most of us have grown up with their RPG's. Help us out SE! Fix it up! Hate to say it.. but it seems like SE just has bad network engineers and/or coders. Man, that just sucks.