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    torphant's Avatar
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    Kalanthis Silverblade
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    blackmage

    Is it me or blm just seem lacking please tell me it's just me
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    Sparda Amon
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    Lacking? yeah sure we don't have bard silence or SMN mobility, but guess what...no one in the game burst harder and no DPS class is absolutely independent of everyone else in the group other than the BLM.

    I make my healers life easier by almost never needing them to ever worry about me (except turn 4, 5 can go f itself). I also do stupid amount of damage and in every possible way, dot, single target and AOE.
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    Zinovia Siderius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Haha, your funny, because while the "basic" rotation is simple, there is so much more to the class than just "spam fire until OOM" And as if your class is so much more complex, hit an ability, Oooo shiny! I guess I should click the shiny button! Oh look another shiny button. Oh, no more shiny buttons? guess I should prolly do something to make them shiny again. Only the melee classes in this game have "complex" rotations (especially DRG which is what, a 27 button cycle before it repeats?)

    So basically instead of 1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,1... your rotation becomes 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 I don't really see how one is more "difficult" than the other... DRG is only "harder" because you have to remember more patterns, but all of the classes are pretty dry rotations, very little reactions.

    We have burst, and we have AOE burst, both of which are pretty useful to a group. Are bards OP? maybe a little bit, but there is a good reason why the absolute optimal DPS for Coil (at least the first 4 turns) is 2 BRD and 2 BLM. I am willing to bet if your silence wasn't so important it would drop your down a few notches.

    To the OP, can you be more specific, lacking... how?
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindri_Myr View Post
    /garbage
    All that coming from a bard, that's hilariously rich.
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I have not done Titan, but using Manawall will really help, it allows you to cast w/o being pushed back by knock back. Which means less moving and more casting. I am constantly doing more damage than BRDs and DRG(LMAO). The only time other DPS do more damage than a BLM is if the BLM is in constant danger of being interrupted and or in the need to cancel cast to get out of the way of AoE. Again, Manawall, Manaward, Swiftcast, Surecast, will help greatly if you use these. If you're getting info off parcers, you do realize that they are broken right?
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    Sindri Myr
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    @ ChickensEvil , Stop being butthurt please.
    Even though our rotation is not all that different from a BLM, we DO move all the time - something that keeps the gameplay lively and fun.
    As for Coil, we DO have a silence though, sorry to shatter your pretty dream but we will keep presence all the time.
    Stacking Bards > everything else. Trashy BLM can stack coil? roflmaolol! Go outside bro, youre mad. And you're completely out of context.
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickensEvil View Post
    We have burst, and we have AOE burst, both of which are pretty useful to a group. Are bards OP? maybe a little bit, but there is a good reason why the absolute optimal DPS for Coil (at least the first 4 turns) is 2 BRD and 2 BLM. I am willing to bet if your silence wasn't so important it would drop your down a few notches.
    it's the "1 singing foe requiem while other singing mana song to keep the other bard singing foe requiem" that makes 2 bards a very singnificant addition in the group, and last I heard, it's not 2BRD 2BLM, it's 2BRD 2SMN.
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    it's the "1 singing foe requiem while other singing mana song to keep the other bard singing foe requiem" that makes 2 bards a very singnificant addition in the group, and last I heard, it's not 2BRD 2BLM, it's 2BRD 2SMN.
    lol burn
    Seriously, why take BLM as a dps when Summoner do as much dps - probably even more AND can move during fights.
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 52
    BLM have the highest burst damage in the game, so of course there will be tradeoffs.
    I play DRG have my DL + Relic and have a hard time matching DPS output on trash mobs in AK vs. a BLM with Ifrit weapon and ilvl 50-55 gear. And no, I'm not a horrible DRG, I know my rotations, and I'm pretty tight with them. However, when it comes to boss fights, I will definitely end up doing more DPS as the BLM will burn out his mana pool if he tried to keep up in a sustained fight.

    Things BLMs are good at:
    Blowing up trash mobs really fast
    AoE like a boss
    Getting 1-shotted by bosses
    TONS OF DAMAGE
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    Arbendael Ka'vanth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    BLM have the highest burst damage in the game, so of course there will be tradeoffs.
    I play DRG have my DL + Relic and have a hard time matching DPS output on trash mobs in AK vs. a BLM with Ifrit weapon and ilvl 50-55 gear. And no, I'm not a horrible DRG, I know my rotations, and I'm pretty tight with them. However, when it comes to boss fights, I will definitely end up doing more DPS as the BLM will burn out his mana pool if he tried to keep up in a sustained fight.

    Things BLMs are good at:
    Blowing up trash mobs really fast
    AoE like a boss
    Getting 1-shotted by bosses
    TONS OF DAMAGE
    Lol @ the idea that BLM have an MP pool that means a damn thing.
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