AFK Leveling

[Jynx]

While I may not agree with such methods of leveling up, as I previously stated in this thread there is no real solution to the problem without making things harder for us normal players.

Punishing the normal players just to get at those few who abuse the system in a way that doesn't really effect anyone at all is just bad design.

[Vackashken]

Well, we also get 100k SP per day in leves by failing them. So you can still rage at me if you want.

I don't rage at you. I nothing you. You are meaningless to me.

As I said, the devs addressed this long ago and said that they expected it so acknowledge it's fine if you want to do it. You don't have to like it.

And as I said it has brought nothing but trouble to the game in several detrimental aspects - far more then random people people going afk and putting their wife/husband/ls mate/friend on follow for a bit. Glad to see your gimlet-eyed, oh-so astute observations have focused on that rather then this minor problem. Hell, if you haven't caught on I have been defending your right to play with your wife as you see fit. Stop trying to defend your "position" with this babble. You don't even have a position to defend so bugger off already.

You can also grind 100k SP in roughly the same amount of time if you know what to fight.

Uh huh... now you're just bankrupting yourself of even that asinine point you're bizarrely clinging onto if you think that. Aside from the fact I said 100+ - well into the plus - the levinshower, wells, etc loophole is by far more effective and lets you soar through the 30s in a handful of moments. So much so the 30 range is almost redundant.

The game lets you play how you want to play - so you do that and I'll do what I like doing.

Thanks for the advice. Maybe you could take it yourself, eh? Hypocrisy at it's finest. The irony is so sweet my teeth ache now.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

This isn't new in any MMO. The reason? Nothing can be done except increasing the difficulty of mobs or placing too many rules where it would make SPing less fun than it already is kind of not.

[Loony_BoB]

Would this problem be solved simply by setting it up so that you need to use, say, three full bars of stamina before you can get your portion of the skill points for that battle? Not saying that the amount of skill points provided should change, just that you would need to 'prove your involvement' and rather than having it set up 'per action' (which can lead to people using small-stamina actions too often rather than being tactical) you can set it up as 'per overall stamina used in battle' which would be much more sensible. Auto-attack could cause a problem with this, but then, auto-attack would mean that they are involved in the battle and they would have every right to gain the skill points even if they are AFK once they begin the auto-attack. Having said that, even if auto-attack did come in but did not use stamina, then people would need to continue using manual actions in order to gain skill points. Good or bad thing? Well, that's a matter of debate, I imagine. I've no idea, personally.

I'm sorry if this (stamina use = skill points) has already been mentioned as I searched this thread for 'stamina' and got not results. I have not read every post.

[Seif]

Just like the RMT please don't ruin the game design because some players don't like to play your game. Just make it better so they're more inclined to do so.

Hell I took a shower in XI lvling party and I don't think anyone noticed but I was just as flexible towards others when they had to do something quick. If they make XIV feel any more like work then I'm seriously considering that SE should start paying US money for sticking with it.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Most of these ideas are awful.

There is nothing you can do without making normal players do a bunch of hoop jumping.

Get over it. Leeching is not new to any MMO and if it doesn't concern you... how exactly does it affect you? If someone leeches their way to 50 they are most likely going to be a god awful player in terms of skill so really the joke is on them.

[Shampooo]

I've added a dev tag to the thread to make it official.
I support removing AFK levelling.
The developers added it so that in a quick pace of battles, everyone nearby would still get sp whereas in XI if you didn't hit the mob you wouldn't get any sp or if you were dead you woudn't get any sp. I'm for giving people sp if they're doing something.

But you can not allow RMT to charge players to level them, and that's what this system will allow. You can't even let shell mates level players for you. That's not fair.

Solution: if your character gains 3 consecutive sp awards while generating no enmity, it gets cut off from subsequent sp awards until it does.

Then AFK players will have to bot to continue to gain SP. They will do this, but at least it is another degree of severity and hopefully they can be caught doing it.

Problem with this is that alot of SP mobs are so easy they can be killed before your partymate can get a hit/spell off.

[BlackomegaKingofwaffles]

I suggest some sort of system that randomly gives you bits of sp up to a predetermined cap for preforming actions that way you wont get sp if you are afk. Problem?

[Chardrizard]

I suggest some sort of system that randomly gives you bits of sp up to a predetermined cap for preforming actions that way you wont get sp if you are afk. Problem?

problem is what the poster above you said. So, no.

[BlackomegaKingofwaffles]

problem is what the poster above you said. So, no.

this is why we need [sarcasm] brackets