AFK Leveling

[Shai]

Looks like you're just as guilty as M for pushing your morals and opinions on to others from what I've read you're already said your peace.

I'm not pushing or selling anything. I'm only responding in a conversational manner.

Of course the game doesn't revolve around me. I'm merely stating how I enjoy to play addressing the devs with a counter argument. I have definitely said my peace and all I'm pushing now are good reasons to be up people's butt about how they choose to spend their time when it's not affecting you.

You see, gil sellers (against the rules, btw) actually unbalance the economy. They make it difficult for legitimate players to get gil in a legitimate manner. Inflation makes it difficult for casual players to make purchases. That's why this type of activity is against the rules. Leveling multiple accounts at the same time is totally legit. You could do it in XI because of auto-attack (and we'll have that soon, too!) so there's a big difference between "right" and "wrong" and it's defined by the Terms of Service and the game mechanics themselves.

Playing outside the game mechanics (botting) or against TOS is cheating and ultimately handled by SE.

Everything else is players criticizing players for doing something "players don't like."
(and I'm irritated that same player is telling me not to read a thread if I don't like it; take your own advice).

I can effectively play all my classes better than they ever could.

There's no proof of this, but if you tell yourself this to protect your personal Code of Ethics in MMOs so be it. You could be the worst player in the history of video games for all I know - or the best. How many accounts you level at the same time probably don't influence your skill level.

[Shai]

Wow do my posts really show a tone of rage? I'm not raging at all since the topic is mediocre at best. I just chose to discuss such a topic with the person that made this thread to try and gain an understanding.

Same with me. I'm bored and fishing in XIV. So here I am having a "conversation" where people disagree.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Looks like you're just as guilty as M for pushing your morals and opinions on to others from what I've read you're already said your peace.

i see you say is blah blah my wife and i play together and we dual box. no one really cares what you or your wife does the game doesn't revolve around you. like panda said this loophole has been around since the dawn of mmos but sadly nothing we can even do about it.

honestly i'd join the bandwagon of people leeching if i needed to but hell im better than that. I can effectively play all my classes better than they ever could.

Personally you don't even get what is going on. Mini and panda or buing noisy bizzy bodies who have nothing better to do then poke their noise in how ppl play. Saying it is an exploit, And flaming anyone who does it with out knowing the full story. He just gave an example of how he plays, OP is bluntly over stating their dislike of people like him. W/o knowing anything more then what they think they see.

[Synapse]

I let my ls mates/friends leech on me, usually because of either: Phone, Eating, Feeding dog, or other random 5 min stuff. Random people, if they don't say they are afk'ing in pt chat or if they did and not show up for after 5 min, i will oust them, let them join in when they get back.

[Shai]

Personally you don't even get what is going on. Mini and panda or buing noisy bizzy bodies who have nothing better to do then poke their noise in how ppl play. Saying it is an exploit, And flaming anyone who does it with out knowing the full story. He just gave an example of how he plays, OP is bluntly over stating their dislike of people like him. W/o knowing anything more then what they think they see.

Quoted for not saying NEET! I don't know what that is and your inclusion of it in every post makes me uncomfortable.

Therefore, don't post because it irritates me and me alone and I don't care how you feel.

(joking, in the spirit of this thread and forcing opinions on others).

[Honz]

So many mad people in this thread lolololol.

I know better from reading the forums than to reply to you kilta I know you're just a instigator. I don't have to tell myself anything because I already have proof that I am better than you. Can't live with that tough luck brother.

[Shai]

So many mad people in this thread lolololol.

I know better from reading the forums than to reply to you kilta I know you're just a instigator. I don't have to tell myself anything because I already have proof that I am better than you. Can't live with that tough luck brother.

Yeah, that sucks for me. I've been defeated. You have all the proof.

[Hotohori]

Honestly I'm starting to think mini m and pandataru are NEETS. Talk about noisy players you butt in on other peoples play habits. You guys really need to get off your high hourse and realize, nothing is wrong. All this will cause are players forced to leave parties and leaders scrabling to find replacements. Which again isn't easy. Also people will start to get peeved off when parties disband due to a few ppl needing to go afk to use the RR.

Honestly I can see this now. "hey guys I got to go, I need to use the WC. " Later" /leaves <<how peeved off will people get when they see this >.>
Or better yet, "guys my kid is hungy I g2g bye". No one would party with anyone at this point.

Sorry but not everyone is a complete NEET.

Sorry for being off topic but I don't think you actually understand the meaning of NEET. NEET is an acronym to describe a person with No Education, Employment or Training. Meaning a person who does not attend school, work and not in the process of learning a trade to be part of specific field of jobs. It has nothing to do with family or needing to use the restroom. How is this term applicable for people who care about how others spend their time playing a game as you are using it?

Yes, some people seem to take the comments about this topic very personally because it would greatly effect the advantages they currently possess when controlling additional characters if policy or mechanics are changed. Gaining skill ups is not an infinite part of the game and once maxed out a character can reap the same rewards as all others who worked to the same point. Sorry but that empty shell of a character doesn't honestly deserve anything in the game for simply existing behind your own. If your wives' characters do not play the game, they don't deserve to be rank 50 and have the same benefits of being a rank 50.

[Akumu]

Gaining skill ups is not an infinite part of the game and once maxed out a character can reap the same rewards as all others who worked to the same point. Sorry but that empty shell of a character doesn't honestly deserve anything in the game for simply existing behind your own. If your wives' characters do not play the game, they don't deserve to be rank 50 and have the same benefits of being a rank 50.

Do I like seeing people do this especially with the full party leech thing? NO
However it still stands why should anyone care enough since it won't affect anyone else?
Just because you, me, or anyone else FEEL they shouldn't be r50 doesn't mean it should have drastic changes to the game to make us feel better.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

hoto, Think about it. A person with no education employment or training has a TON of free time, some turn into shut ins and through special means (mooching off parants) tend to play mmo. They put too much involement and literally live their life in said mmo. They tend to be up ppls butts about what to do, and what they feel is write or wrong.
Bacically a NEET would care about "afk leechers" and "multiboxer" And make a post about it. I do know what the term means and using it correctly So no I'm not getting the term wrong.

Pretty much anyone who feels to strongly about what OP is saying, or as to pull what OP is pulling, agrees with the OP. Take a break from gaming. You need it as you take this game to seriously. You have no right to intrude on how other people play as it DOES NOT EFFECT YOU, YOUR GAME. Stop trying to play big brother and be up ppls rears and judge them.