AFK Leveling

[Akumu]

Try to pay attention to what's actually written in a post and read it carefully instead of reading the title and scanning the post.

He/She doesn't talk about people going AFK during a party, He/she talks about AFK-leveing parties with everyone but 1 or 2 people in the party that are AFK/in auto-follow which the other one or two not AFK SP for everyone. See the screen I posted in my first post and you'll get what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean and her/his posts don't seem to point in this direction no matter how many were written or how many times I re-read them.
How can SE stop this from happening without taking away current rights? So if I payed for 4 accounts I can't let just one character kill everything my own leve party? I would have to play each one at the same time? If I use my wife account for the extra leves will I be banned for doing so?

This topic is mediocre and affects only those that choose to make it more than what it is.


edit: The above is not something I have ever done or plan on ever doing(my wife also doesn't play). I just choose to be empathetic on topics and I just don't see why anyone cares so much about this(no matter how hard I am honestly trying). It's just being way too nosy by wanting to hover over someone's shoulder and judging how they choose to play.

[PandaTaru]

That's where you draw the line between "fair use" and "abuse". IRL such thing is called common sense.

After if you're just posting to contradict people just to try to make a point because you think your opinion prevails, then be happy with it.

What we're seeing these days is not the guy who help himself plvl the wife or himself with the help of another account, it's parties of people in the same ls abusing loopholes. I'm sure SE didn't -- never-- meant to have such thing happen AND it's bad rep for them when something like this happens too. So instead of blaming/flaming the OP for pointing that loophole out, flame the abusers who are using a older than old loophole in MMOs.

[Shai]

Edit: whatever.


There are multiples jobs, so why don't you keep one just to rank up with her and enjoy the game with her and another you play just to play yourself?

Why don't you go play WoW?

Answer: You choose not to.

I'm not breaking any rules and I'm not ruining your experience. Why do you care what I do or how I play?

Answer some of the questions I asked previously about who this harms or how this unbalances anything?

Unless they're too challenging. Then you can keep trying to change the subject or join M in pushing your opinions and psuedo-morals on others.

[PandaTaru]

Why don't you go play WoW?

Answer: You choose not to.

I'm not breaking any rules and I'm not ruining your experience. Why do you care what I do or how I play?

Answer some of the questions I asked previously about who this harms or how this unbalances anything?

Unless they're too challenging. Then you can keep trying to change the subject or join M in pushing your opinions and psuedo-morals on others.

Read my post above and get your answer.

[Akumu]

That's where you draw the line between "fair use" and "abuse". IRL such thing is called common sense.

After if you're just posting to contradict people just to try to make a point because you think your opinion prevails, then be happy with it.

What we're seeing these days is not the guy who help himself plvl the wife or himself with the help of another account, it's parties of people in the same ls abusing loopholes. I'm sure SE never didn't mean to have such thing happen AND it's bad rep for them to have such thing happen too. So instead of blaming/flaming the OP for pointing that loophole out, flame the abusers who are using a older than old loophole in MMOs.

This "loophole" you speak of every MMO has it one way or another. In any MMO there will be people that powerlevel unless you add drastic changes. Even if they add the sp randomness again what do you think the bots will do then? They will be programmed to spam something. This will then affect the Legits a lot more in attempt to slow someone powerleveling(which isn't serious).

[Shai]

It doesn't matter what they intended.

If I played the game the way they intended I'd be able to debuff monsters with my miner by throwing rocks.

I'm playing the game they made, man, in a way that works for me and my family and my friends. You don't have to.

You didn't answer who it hurts or how it unbalances anything. All you've done is make an assumption that SE doesn't want people doing it - and you may be correct (probably are!) but it doesn't change how the game works or the fact that no innocent bystanders were harmed in the process.

[PandaTaru]

This "loophole" you speak of every MMO has it one way or another. In any MMO there will be people that powerlevel unless you add drastic changes. Even if they add the sp randomness again what do you think the bots will do then? They will be programmed to spam something. This will then affect the Legits a lot more in attempt to slow someone powerleveling(which isn't serious).

I never said it should be fixed. I'm telling you to redirect your pseudo-rage on the people abusing this loophole rather than then the OP. If you need to express some sort of rage, take boxing classes. You know the saying about arguing on the Internet, right?

[Honz]

Why don't you go play WoW?

Answer: You choose not to.

I'm not breaking any rules and I'm not ruining your experience. Why do you care what I do or how I play?

Answer some of the questions I asked previously about who this harms or how this unbalances anything?

Unless they're too challenging. Then you can keep trying to change the subject or join M in pushing your opinions and psuedo-morals on others.

Looks like you're just as guilty as M for pushing your morals and opinions on to others from what I've read you're already said your peace.

i see you say is blah blah my wife and i play together and we dual box. no one really cares what you or your wife does the game doesn't revolve around you. like panda said this loophole has been around since the dawn of mmos but sadly nothing we can even do about it.

honestly i'd join the bandwagon of people leeching if i needed to but hell im better than that. I can effectively play all my classes better than they ever could.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Honestly I'm starting to think mini m and pandataru are NEETS. Talk about noisy players you butt in on other peoples play habits. You guys really need to get off your high hourse and realize, nothing is wrong. All this will cause are players forced to leave parties and leaders scrabling to find replacements. Which again isn't easy. Also people will start to get peeved off when parties disband due to a few ppl needing to go afk to use the RR.

Honestly I can see this now. "hey guys I got to go, I need to use the WC. " Later" /leaves <<how peeved off will people get when they see this >.>
Or better yet, "guys my kid is hungy I g2g bye". No one would party with anyone at this point.

Sorry but not everyone is a complete NEET.

[Akumu]

I never said it should be fixed. I'm telling you to redirect your pseudo-rage on the people abusing this loophole rather than then the OP. If you need to express some sort of rage, take boxing classes. You know the saying about arguing on the Internet, right?

Wow do my posts really show a tone of rage? I'm not raging at all since the topic is mediocre at best. I just chose to discuss such a topic with the person that made this thread to try and gain an understanding.