AFK Leveling

[PandaTaru]

That's where you draw the line between "fair use" and "abuse". IRL such thing is called common sense.

After if you're just posting to contradict people just to try to make a point because you think your opinion prevails, then be happy with it.

What we're seeing these days is not the guy who help himself plvl the wife or himself with the help of another account, it's parties of people in the same ls abusing loopholes. I'm sure SE didn't -- never-- meant to have such thing happen AND it's bad rep for them when something like this happens too. So instead of blaming/flaming the OP for pointing that loophole out, flame the abusers who are using a older than old loophole in MMOs.

[Akumu]

That's where you draw the line between "fair use" and "abuse". IRL such thing is called common sense.

After if you're just posting to contradict people just to try to make a point because you think your opinion prevails, then be happy with it.

What we're seeing these days is not the guy who help himself plvl the wife or himself with the help of another account, it's parties of people in the same ls abusing loopholes. I'm sure SE never didn't mean to have such thing happen AND it's bad rep for them to have such thing happen too. So instead of blaming/flaming the OP for pointing that loophole out, flame the abusers who are using a older than old loophole in MMOs.

This "loophole" you speak of every MMO has it one way or another. In any MMO there will be people that powerlevel unless you add drastic changes. Even if they add the sp randomness again what do you think the bots will do then? They will be programmed to spam something. This will then affect the Legits a lot more in attempt to slow someone powerleveling(which isn't serious).

[PandaTaru]

This "loophole" you speak of every MMO has it one way or another. In any MMO there will be people that powerlevel unless you add drastic changes. Even if they add the sp randomness again what do you think the bots will do then? They will be programmed to spam something. This will then affect the Legits a lot more in attempt to slow someone powerleveling(which isn't serious).

I never said it should be fixed. I'm telling you to redirect your pseudo-rage on the people abusing this loophole rather than then the OP. If you need to express some sort of rage, take boxing classes. You know the saying about arguing on the Internet, right?

[Akumu]

I never said it should be fixed. I'm telling you to redirect your pseudo-rage on the people abusing this loophole rather than then the OP. If you need to express some sort of rage, take boxing classes. You know the saying about arguing on the Internet, right?

Wow do my posts really show a tone of rage? I'm not raging at all since the topic is mediocre at best. I just chose to discuss such a topic with the person that made this thread to try and gain an understanding.

[Shai]

Wow do my posts really show a tone of rage? I'm not raging at all since the topic is mediocre at best. I just chose to discuss such a topic with the person that made this thread to try and gain an understanding.

Same with me. I'm bored and fishing in XIV. So here I am having a "conversation" where people disagree.

[PandaTaru]

Wow do my posts really show a tone of rage? I'm not raging at all since the topic is mediocre at best. I just chose to discuss such a topic with the person that made this thread to try and gain an understanding.

Having a discussion is about sharing idea and thoughts, not spamming 10 pages trying to make a point out of your opinion. And it's neither about winning of losing. If a discussion turns about winning or losing, it becomes an argument.


You fair use this, like I did in XI and probably would do if I could dual box in XIV, fine. However take in consideration that this can be abused and it is being abused. Here an extreme example so maybe you'll get what I mean; it's not because you smoke pot that selling drugs to kids becomes "Ok" and should be allowed by the law.

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The only real way to fix this should be SE adding this behavior to the TOS and leave the action to be taken at the discretion of the GM. Like let them judge if you're "fair" using" p-lvling your wife or just helping yourself with just one char or totally abusing this and p-lvling a million chars with just one char active. if the game becomes popular (again?) and more RMT show up, this "problem" will surface again.