AFK Leveling

[Mini_M]

This is to the Devs. AFK leveling is ruining the game, SP parties are so easy that a person can just latch on and not do a thing and gain SP. Whether the party is a grinding party or leve linking party people are getting SP while not at their computer screen. This is happening because party members do not have to pull their own weight in parties and this makes this kind of situation possible. This is pretty much botting with a safety net. Archers can rank from 1-50 without shooting a single arrow, gladiators can hit 50 wearing a weathered sword and shield in their underwear.

Yes AFK leveling is a effective method of gaining SP because every knows you only need 4-5 active members to effectively kill anything that is worth good SP. For example in a r40-45 leve linking party doing Ranine Reveries in which the SP is capped at 3-4 star rating only 5 of those 8 members have to be active for the party to complete the leve which leaves 3 spots open for AFK leechers and such but regardless of who did what everyone gains the same SP.

Edit: Since my post is confusing for lots of people I'm going to borrow panda's picture to better explain myself.

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/q...1298656210.jpg

Yeah who cares if you afk because you need to use the potty or having a cig break. But if you're ranking entire jobs from 1 to 50 without ever having to engage in combat then yes its a problem. Why is it a problem? Because you don't have to be at your screen to gain SP. Botting requires you to not be at your screen while gaining SP. Do you seem the similarities?

Yes there are people out there doing this, and a solution to this would be a new method of SP distribution to party members.

Edit 2: This isn't about one or two people AFKing for a few minutes at a time. What I'm pointing at is organized AFK leeching. Whole parties dedicated to AFK leeching, Linkshells that organize these AFK parties. Report them all you want, b-list them, avoid them, but I'm only trying to inform the community of what they're doing so we can shun them and not get involved.

[Akumu]

There will always be AFK leechers regardless of SP distribution(unless they go back to XIV original way *cringe*).

Solutions:
1)Kick anyone that AFK in the party too long.
2)Only party with your Ls members

edit: Who would even allow someone to go from r1-50 with r1 gear? It's not the AFK Levelers fault if you become their sucker with such obvious methods.

[Sojiro]

There will always be AFK leechers regardless of SP distribution(unless they go back to XIV original way *cringe*).

Solutions:
1)Kick anyone that AFK in the part too long.
2)Only party with your Ls members

Agreed, if i'm part of any party (outside of LS') and someone is going afk a lot and leeching then its a boot. If someone is ok with one of their group going AFK while they SP...well more power to them, I would be ok with a friend or LS mate going AFK a bit during some groups (not all the time). I don't want to see the horrendously random SP gains we had at the beginning of this game to try and combat it. I don't really see this as some huge problem, and i'm sure all MMO's have this to a certain degree.

[Molly_Millions]

MIKU LS is well known for this on Fabul, they'll have two party members actually fighting and two in tow who just provide links for sp. It's sad really.

[Akumu]

MIKU LS is well known for this on Fabul, they'll have two party members actually fighting and two in tow who just provide links for sp. It's sad really.

Is the two in the Ls? or is it just two picked-up?
If all four are in the Ls I still see no problem. However if two are random people and have a problem with it then stop joining them. The good thing about FF online community is everyone has a rep.

[Ragz]

MIKU LS is well known for this on Fabul, they'll have two party members actually fighting and two in tow who just provide links for sp. It's sad really.

LOL this is so inaccurate. We only have 1 person fighting and 5-6 in tow, and take shifts. It's called teamwork.

The difference is this is not against user agreement and botting is. Unlike most LS we take botting very seriously, and have banned multiple people for botting.

[Shampooo]

LOL this is so inaccurate. We only have 1 person fighting and 5-6 in tow, and take shifts. It's called teamwork.

The difference is this is not against user agreement and botting is. Unlike most LS we take botting very seriously, and have banned multiple people for botting.

lol who was botting?

[Molly_Millions]

LOL this is so inaccurate. We only have 1 person fighting and 5-6 in tow, and take shifts. It's called teamwork.

The difference is this is not against user agreement and botting is. Unlike most LS we take botting very seriously, and have banned multiple people for botting.

As long as those other people are at their pc, I see no issue with it, honestly. But afk leveling seems like cheating to me.

There is a difference when someone goes on follow to say, run to the restroom, but it's something else entirely when the intention cheat, for lack of a better word.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

As long as those other people are at their pc, I see no issue with it, honestly. But afk leveling seems like cheating to me.

There is a difference when someone goes on follow to say, run to the restroom, but it's something else entirely when the intention cheat, for lack of a better word.

No its not cheating. Cheat is botting meaning you run programs to control that character. Be on afk /follow isn't cheating.

And again how other people choose to level (unless it is botting) is none of your buiness.

You guys really need to get off your high horses and come to the realization that your jealousy is going to kill the game.
You do not know the full story and should not judge people.

Witch hunting people is a vile practice.
And understand that any counter measures will effect EVERYONE. Meaning no one will be able to go afk at all.

The only solutions here is to just butt out of other peoples buiness, and if someone goes afk for too long kick them POLITLY.