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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    I think too many retainers would make players difficult to sell stuff.
    Why? In Eve every player have practically unlimited storage - up to 1000 individual item stacks in EVERY inventory space - station/ship etc, and stack size is up to... I don't know, somewhere in the trillions. And Eve has one of the most robust market/economy, hard to sell is def. not a problem there.

    I mean, really, since when has inefficiency result in a more efficient economy? TBH, I cringe every time I have to sort my inventory in 14, both 1.0 and 2.0. What would take my literally hours to do in 14 could be done in seconds in Eve.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJPr3tty View Post
    Inventory is limited for memory reasons (in b4 PS3 LIMITS US). Many games run into memory issues with inventory, it's why AF/Seasonal gear loses spriitbind in the A-chest.
    Then perhaps they need to design a better system or hire someone else who can

    We have a total of 100+175+175 or 450 slots which is obscene. Be grateful we don't have to go find bags like other games.
    *points to the Eve numbers above*

    On one of my Eve character alone I'm probably using around 10k~15k+ item stack/slot, and I'm not even an industrialist.

    Oh, and every Eve player/character are in the same "world", so my question is what can CCP do that SE can't when it comes to inventory and memory usage?
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    My guess is because they wanted to limit us to have two retainers right now since they want to ensure it doesn't hurt the market board while more newcomers to buy the game and play with us. When we have more new items in every patch they will consider when we get another retainer. EVE has been around for many years with so many items so it wouldn't hurt to sell. The market board doesn't have rules like EVE has ones or it needs rules if we want more retainers.

    Now, the OP is asking for more slots and not retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    My guess is because they wanted to limit us to have two retainers right now since they want to ensure it doesn't hurt the market board while more newcomers to buy the game and play with us. When we have more new items in every patch they will consider when we get another retainer. EVE has been around for many years with so many items so it wouldn't hurt to sell. The market board doesn't have rules like EVE has ones or it needs rules if we want more retainers.

    Now, the OP is asking for more slots and not retainers.
    My guess is that it's resource related, whether hardware or software. The number of retainers with the way the market board works now isn't going to matter, those who want more sell slots will just use alts. The sticking point for me is the inventory space.
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    nope the reason was already said, is because of the ps3 memory limitation, was already said by Yoshida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    nope the reason was already said, is because of the ps3 memory limitation, was already said by Yoshida.
    Care to provide a link? I have seen him mention memory many times, but never the PS3 specifically. Everytime I ask for a link, someone provides one that doesn't actually say the PS3 is the limiting factor, they just read more into it than what is said.

    I think unlimited inventory (on your person) is a ridiculous idea, and unlimited inventory (in a storage chest) would not be memory limited, and would be trivial to code a system (even for a memory restricted device) to browse a theoretically unlimited list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    nope the reason was already said, is because of the ps3 memory limitation, was already said by Yoshida.
    if this really is the case this is a downside of the console release cause of memory limitation i would like just at least one more retainer at least so i can have one in each major city
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    Quote Originally Posted by Froippi View Post
    if this really is the case this is a downside of the console release cause of memory limitation i would like just at least one more retainer at least so i can have one in each major city
    It is not the case, do not believe the FUD that people keep spreading. An unlimited inventory system is trivial to write could be achieved on practically any (target) hardware in the last 20 years. It would be even easier if we used pagination (like we have now), and then it would be very similar to say, a forum, but on a much smaller scale. (i.e. it loads all of the page you are on, and doesnt worry about the other pages (unless you had enough memory to keep pages in cache). It is a little more difficult to do if you want a single monolithic list, but still fairly trivial. Of course such a system would be best implemented with your retainer or a chest or similar, not with your "on hand" inventory.

    This does not mean that I think we should have unlimited inventory (I don't) but its not a client side limitation with any specific hardware.

    Also, with player housing coming out, there will be furniture (chests, and such) that will add inventory space as it did in XI.
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    When housing is brought in, I'm sure there will be some kind of storage in there. Either way, I have 3 crafting classes all over level 20 and a miner at 33. I have only filled up one retainer with ingredients and my current "on-body" inventory is like 27/100

    I think you just need to stop hoarding. You know you can use those ingredients right? Start crafting, who knows, maybe you will make some money along the way if you sell the stuff correctly on the market board.

    Unless you powerleveled to 50, most of the junk you picked up along the way isn't worth saving more than a few pieces of. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the trash drops are just that, trash. You will use 85% of them to craft one thing on your list for the xp bonus and be done with them.
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    I would love more retainers, each carrying fewer slots. Currently, we have 350 slots between 2 retainers. I'd love 350 slots and 7 retainers (50 slots per).

    I'm a harvester and crafter, so I have a lot of stuff to organize and juggle. I'd love to have one retainer for JUST fish, one for JUST ores, one for JUST goods-in-progress, one for finished goods, etc.

    I'd even be ok if only one of the retainers could go to market as long as I could properly organize the inventories of the other retainers. That way, we wouldn't have to stress the system with 7 unique retainer names. Just 1 name (and the clones would be A, B, C or 2, 3, 4 etc.).

    Right now, inventory management is a time-consuming disaster .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    I like collecting all my stuff, and preparing all my green/pink armors for future classes.. I just don't think two is enough. Or let us make use of the Armoire chest in the Inn aside from seasonal/AF gears?
    I've seen similar questions brought up in over MMO's before and the general answer is that the developers want you to think about inventory and want you to make choices.
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