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  1. #1
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    KirinNight's Avatar
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    Sifa Nifael
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 35

    The Oath of the Competent Archer

    Tanks and healers of Eorzea, it has sadly come to the attention of many archers that we have something of a bad reputation in the community. While certainly there will always be bad archers, you should know that we are not all the same! That there are those among us that won't pull aggro, die, and blame the tank. That there are those among us that do more than autoattack. That there are those among us that have played MMOs before, and have functioning braincells!

    For you, I offer: The Oath of the Competent Archer

    1. I WILL count to three before unloading on the tank's target.
    2. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.
    3. I WILL run towards the tank if I draw aggro, not away from him/her.
    4. I WILL NOT just spam Quick Nock on everything.
    5. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.
    6. I WILL NOT pull for "slow" tanks.
    7. I WILL monitor my aggro, and ease off if my threat gets too high.
    8. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.
    9. I WILL switch targets and kill adds, especially if they are attacking the healer.
    10. And above all, I WILL NOT complain about Bard. We knew DPS-Support was what we were signing up for!


    Thank you for putting up with our more embarrassing kin. The rest of us will do our best to make your pugs as painless as possible!
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    Last edited by KirinNight; 09-13-2013 at 11:57 PM.

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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KirinNight View Post
    1. I WILL count to three before unloading on the tank's target.
    2. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.
    5. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.
    7. I WILL monitor my aggro, and ease off if my threat gets too high.
    8. I WILL use Quelling Strikes.


    Thank you for putting up with our kin. We will do our best to make your pugs as painless as possible!
    A good way to alleviate this is fully buffing before the fight. I have 6 buffs I cast on myself during level 50 content (with quelling strike being in there) so that gives the tank enough time to build hate while I'm buffing so my early damage burst won't steal hate.
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    reaver84's Avatar
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    Character
    Dunder Estes
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I usually hold off on the DPS bomb for a few seconds while the tank gets a few hits in. I just got Quelling Strikes last night so I'll have to test the waters with it.

    With the moments I do pull aggro, I stop attacking altogether. Thankfully that doesn't happen too often. I think the Tank has a responsibility of holding aggro as much as I do to not draw it.
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    Madeleine's Avatar
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    Madeleine Valentino
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    I usually do all of those you listed. Fantastic list too. Even with following those though it still seems that people are quick to blame the archer/ bard. I think maybe that mindset comes from other games. Though I haven't been in a group with another bard let alone an awful one.
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    Finalvalkyrie's Avatar
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    Lens Hunter
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Support? No. Bards are best DPS. If someone in the group asks me to song I tell them to fuck off and they should play better.

    Everything else, cool beans.
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Finalvalkyrie View Post
    Support? No. Bards are best DPS. If someone in the group asks me to song I tell them to fuck off and they should play better.

    Everything else, cool beans.
    I still top DPS even with songs active. Your argument is invalid
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    MusouMugen's Avatar
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    Musou Mugen
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Finalvalkyrie View Post
    Support? No. Bards are best DPS. If someone in the group asks me to song I tell them to fuck off and they should play better.

    Everything else, cool beans.
    So even if you have a skill that does something for other classes you don't want to use it? I hope some healer sees this and stops healing you, just coz...play better and avoid damage yo, after all you can move and pewpew at the same time.
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    Soniccus Dedrago
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Finalvalkyrie View Post
    Support? No. Bards are best DPS. If someone in the group asks me to song I tell them to fuck off and they should play better.

    Everything else, cool beans.
    I feel sorry for any group you are part of.
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    I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!

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    KyteStones's Avatar
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    Vergil Savickas
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Finalvalkyrie View Post
    Support? No. Bards are best DPS. If someone in the group asks me to song I tell them to fuck off and they should play better.

    Everything else, cool beans.
    This..you are the reason why when we get a Archer/Bard in the DF I sigh. You may be able to do 'faster" dps with no casting time as opposed to my BLM, but when it comes down to it, you are another support character and my damage outranks you (but we all know casters are supposed to be kinda OP anyways, its in every mmo). The bard songs are meant to help the teammates and meant to be used if you know how to use your class correctly, which I'm guessing you're not. How you managed to make it to level 50 is beyond me. With the play style and attitude you give off, I'd be out of that instance in a heart beat. Shoutouts to Bards though who know how to use the songs and saved our asses on Garuda!
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    Finalvalkyrie's Avatar
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    Lens Hunter
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    This..you are the reason why when we get a Archer/Bard in the DF I sigh. You may be able to do 'faster" dps with no casting time as opposed to my BLM, but when it comes down to it, you are another support character and my damage outranks you (but we all know casters are supposed to be kinda OP anyways, its in every mmo). The bard songs are meant to help the teammates and meant to be used if you know how to use your class correctly, which I'm guessing you're not. How you managed to make it to level 50 is beyond me. With the play style and attitude you give off, I'd be out of that instance in a heart beat. Shoutouts to Bards though who know how to use the songs and saved our asses on Garuda!
    Hahaha. Wrong. But keep thinking that.
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