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  1. #11
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    Furio Noctis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxer View Post
    Good one, you managed to approach a flame thread from a slightly different angle! Did you know that you can play every class and you actually do need to level a second class to get any of the job skills? My suggestion is you play the game now, and as time goes by they will add new content. If you are bored...do something else.
    Hi Huxer,

    Did you read the posts? No one even mentioned the word bored.

    As far as your advice goes: How could you advice me to level up a third class, when It's clear I'm talking about the lack of end game content, not the lack of content in general.

    As far as leveling a third class goes: All ques-hubs have been used so, yeah... I don't enjoy grinding (repeating an action ad nauseum without context).

    Everyone relax. I'm asking, therefore I lack the knowledge so yes, I'm ignorant in that aspect. What would you advice a newly dinged 50 to do then? (Please refrain from "level up your chocobo" and "rank up with all 3 companies" unless that's actually useful in end game content)

    Keep your calm and thanks again! <3
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    Last edited by Furio; 09-13-2013 at 09:26 PM.

  2. #12
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    Alkalord Weeone
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    Sargatanas
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    OP, you get darklight gear from tomes of philosophy and your AF2 from tomes of mythology. Yes the mythology tomes are only available in AK ATM but philosophy are also available from castrum, praetorium, wanderers palace, aurum vale, dhezemael darkhold and I can't remember where else, as I'm at work ATM...
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalord View Post
    OP, you get darklight gear from tomes of philosophy and your AF2 from tomes of mythology. Yes the mythology tomes are only available in AK ATM but philosophy are also available from castrum, praetorium, wanderers palace, aurum vale, dhezemael darkhold and I can't remember where else, as I'm at work ATM...
    Thanks for your reply!

    So basically I needn't grind AK to have access to the next tier of content (e.g. Coil of Bahamut)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    Thanks for your reply!

    So basically I needn't grind AK to have access to the next tier of content (e.g. Coil of Bahamut)?
    You don't -have to- but it is still the most efficient way of doing so.

    Starting with Stone Vigil every dungeon drops Philosopher Tomes. The problem? The amount you get from non-Amdapor dungeons is far less. For example Wanderer's Palace (The other level 50 dungeon) only drops 50. Amdapor drops 80 (AND 40 Mythology). The dungeons lower than Wanderer's Palace drop even less, the lower level the dungeon the lower the tome amount.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    You don't -have to- but it is still the most efficient way of doing so.

    Starting with Stone Vigil every dungeon drops Philosopher Tomes. The problem? The amount you get from non-Amdapor dungeons is far less. For example Wanderer's Palace (The other level 50 dungeon) only drops 50. Amdapor drops 80 (AND 40 Mythology). The dungeons lower than Wanderer's Palace drop even less, the lower level the dungeon the lower the tome amount.
    Roger. So, in practice, are level 50 static groups actually doing those other dungeons? What I personally think (please note: think) is that the difference in tome quantity plus the 40 Myth warrants the complete disregard for any dungeon other than AK. Which subsequently shrinks the available (viable) content at 50.

    Is this the case? Honestly.
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    Dankz Greenleaf
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    Crystal tower in patch 2.1 = 24 man content

    Extreme Mode Primal

    Hard mode regular dungeons

    Pretty sure this has been confirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    Roger. So, in practice, are level 50 static groups actually doing those other dungeons? What I personally think (please note: think) is that the difference in tome quantity plus the 40 Myth warrants the complete disregard for any dungeon other than AK. Which subsequently shrinks the available (viable) content at 50.

    Is this the case? Honestly.
    Unless they need the weapon drop (or Relic weapon component) from Wanderer's Palace, no I would say that close to no static groups would run anything except Amdapor UNLESS they are running Castrum (8 man story dungeon) which drops 100 philosopher tomes but no mythology tomes. The reason is in a static group you can get 100x8 philosopher tomes in a very easy (And relatively quick 25-35 minutes approx) dungeon as opposed to Amdapor which is both a 4 man and longer now that speed runs have been fixed.
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    tldr: there is a coke bottleneck.

    This is why I don't craft stuff that requires dungeon diving. It's also the only reason I was apathetic to the lower stats for crafted gear. I thought the purpose was to avoid dungeon diving. We will see if they fix it.
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    Alkalord Weeone
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    Both cast rum and praetorium drop 100 philosophy tomes per completion. Darklight is obtainable quite easily this way. AF2 can wait. Mix it up and enjoy!
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    Furio Noctis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalord View Post
    Both cast rum and praetorium drop 100 philosophy tomes per completion. Darklight is obtainable quite easily this way. AF2 can wait. Mix it up and enjoy!
    Thanks for all the constructive replies guys! That's our goal in the end: Enjoying the run with our limited time. When we do reach the required ilvl to raid we plan to do so with a hardcore mind-set as we did in WoW. I merely hope that the hardships we encounter along the way are of the 'difficult' kind, rather than the 'tedious' grindy time consuming kind.

    ps: Where is this tome vendor?

    Arigatou gozaimashita!
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