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  1. #11
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    Humble's Avatar
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    First off, the economy is already messed up because of bots and whatnot, so whatever saving grace was being leveraged for that is already dead.

    My situation is that while I am on a Legacy server and had a legacy character, I didn't play the game in version 1.0 because it frankly wasn't a good game. Thus, I don't have ridiculous amounts of money and would probably bet that a reasonable portion of legacy players are in that situation over the smaller group who actually continued to play through 1.0. Is it truly confirmed that Legacy players cannot transfer for a new world that was created? If that is indeed the case, then I'm unfortunately done with the game. It's unreasonable for me to "wait patiently" on server transfers after talking friends into playing the new version which are now scattered on new worlds to be finally told "no, you can't go there". Honestly, that's just stupid, ridiculous, and is just another disappointment with this. I'm honestly really trying to play and pay for this game, but I'm just so frustrated at this stage.
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    do you know when the WTS will start?
    I would like to move a character from Lich to Ragnarock...
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  3. #13
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    Izanaga Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    First off, the economy is already messed up because of bots and whatnot, so whatever saving grace was being leveraged for that is already dead.

    My situation is that while I am on a Legacy server and had a legacy character, I didn't play the game in version 1.0 because it frankly wasn't a good game. Thus, I don't have ridiculous amounts of money and would probably bet that a reasonable portion of legacy players are in that situation over the smaller group who actually continued to play through 1.0. Is it truly confirmed that Legacy players cannot transfer for a new world that was created? If that is indeed the case, then I'm unfortunately done with the game. It's unreasonable for me to "wait patiently" on server transfers after talking friends into playing the new version which are now scattered on new worlds to be finally told "no, you can't go there". Honestly, that's just stupid, ridiculous, and is just another disappointment with this. I'm honestly really trying to play and pay for this game, but I'm just so frustrated at this stage.
    This is exactly my sentiment. They seem to think that having a 1.0 character automatically makes you 'economy breaking mega rich'. Most players aren't like that. There should really be a better criteria for transferrals. A good benchmark would be what level of wealth you had when 2.0 launched. If it is over a pre-determined threshold, then you are deemed dangerous to a new economy. If not, then you should be free to move. Many MANY new players are far richer than I am.
    Besides, as I said in a previous post, they cut 1.0 gil down by 9/10ths, and they are limiting how much gil can be transferred. What’s the problem here?

    Lordparanoia: --> An official announcement is said to be coming on the Lodestone regarding when the five day free transfer window is opening. Keep an eye on the homepage. They also post some info on the twitter account which can be useful.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_animeguy View Post
    This is exactly my sentiment. They seem to think that having a 1.0 character automatically makes you 'economy breaking mega rich'. Most players aren't like that. There should really be a better criteria for transferrals. A good benchmark would be what level of wealth you had when 2.0 launched. If it is over a pre-determined threshold, then you are deemed dangerous to a new economy. If not, then you should be free to move. Many MANY new players are far richer than I am.
    Besides, as I said in a previous post, they cut 1.0 gil down by 9/10ths, and they are limiting how much gil can be transferred. What’s the problem here?

    Lordparanoia: --> An official announcement is said to be coming on the Lodestone regarding when the five day free transfer window is opening. Keep an eye on the homepage. They also post some info on the twitter account which can be useful.
    You can still bring items over that might affect the economy of non-legacy worlds adversely.
    Sorry to say, but you'll be stuck on legacy worlds for around half a year unless you feel like starting over on a new character.
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  5. #15
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    Sorry, but where is the official post saying 1.0 players can't move? All I can see is people saying it won't happen, but nothing official.

    They already demolished our gil before 2.0 came out AND more importantly they already let us do World Transfers back in June/July when they offered us a free transfer then to non 1.0 worlds before 2.0 started. Those people that took those transfers are already on non-legacy worlds, there would be no point in blocking anyone else wanting to transfer now based on 1.0 status since they already allowed it once.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Sorry, but where is the official post saying 1.0 players can't move? All I can see is people saying it won't happen, but nothing official.

    They already demolished our gil before 2.0 came out AND more importantly they already let us do World Transfers back in June/July when they offered us a free transfer then to non 1.0 worlds before 2.0 started. Those people that took those transfers are already on non-legacy worlds, there would be no point in blocking anyone else wanting to transfer now based on 1.0 status since they already allowed it once.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...60#post1361160

    "Furthermore, it will be possible to move from a new World to a new World, a Legacy World to a Legacy World, and a new World to a Legacy World. In the future, we will look at economic conditions on new Worlds and plan on making it possible to transfer from Legacy Worlds to new Worlds; however, this option will not be available at the start of the World Transfer Service."

    The World Transfer back in June/July was between Legacy worlds only as in 1.0 all worlds were in JP datacenter, and they split it into JP and NA/EU.

    Also, they didn't "demolish" your old gil. It was a re-valuation where 10 old gil was worth 1 new gil. Everything sold by NPCs or sold to NPCs got scaled accordingly as well, so your net worth was the same before and after, just with smaller numbers.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...60#post1361160

    "Furthermore, it will be possible to move from a new World to a new World, a Legacy World to a Legacy World, and a new World to a Legacy World. In the future, we will look at economic conditions on new Worlds and plan on making it possible to transfer from Legacy Worlds to new Worlds; however, this option will not be available at the start of the World Transfer Service."

    The World Transfer back in June/July was between Legacy worlds only as in 1.0 all worlds were in JP datacenter, and they split it into JP and NA/EU.

    Also, they didn't "demolish" your old gil. It was a re-valuation where 10 old gil was worth 1 new gil. Everything sold by NPCs or sold to NPCs got scaled accordingly as well, so your net worth was the same before and after, just with smaller numbers.
    Thanks for updating. With that information, I only have two solutions. The first is that I get off of Excalibur and go to a low pop Legacy server and then hope that friends transfer over to that from the new worlds. The second option, if that cannot work, is walk away from this game. I'm not starting over on about 90 levels of playing just because an economy already screwed up might not screw up already screwed up new worlds. Smart stuff...awesome.
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    Ashley Riot
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    Any information on WHEN the world transfer service will start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KupoNut View Post
    Any information on WHEN the world transfer service will start?
    Yes, a date would be extremely helpful but SE doesn't seem to disclose...well...anything.
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    Mio Kuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    You can still bring items over that might affect the economy of non-legacy worlds adversely.
    Sorry to say, but you'll be stuck on legacy worlds for around half a year unless you feel like starting over on a new character.
    LOL ... no. Everyone has the same number of slots and retainers so I don't see this as an issue. There is already a gil limitation on transfers, so this is also a non-issue. RMT has already broken the game to the point where it will make little difference if a non-legacy server is all of a sudden inundated with Legacy refugees. For my part, I have no opinion either way, since I've started over on a non-Legacy server, but the whole premise of "affecting economy" is just a red herring considering the state that it's already in (which is to say, it's not looking pretty at this point in time)

    In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb and even dare to suggest that Legacy wealth may actually counterbalance the RMT, and bring down inflation on all non-Legacy servers.
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