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  1. #11
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    Jaminos's Avatar
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    Jaminos Talon
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Well another example, my first time doing Titan, my group literally failed twenty times before we beat him. I should have left after the fifth, I had Tue boss down cold. Tanking him is actually fairly easy during the "easy mode version" or, not the level 50 "Hard Mode"

    The DPS kept getting hit by his knock back cone and either dying from the hit or dying from the fall. But they were a group of real life friends and were super friendly. So I stuck it out until we managed to get him down. The DPS still died during phase 2, but between myself and the other DPS, we took him down.



    I love tanking. Its a lot of fun. To feel important during a fight. While I never consider myself better than any of my other party members, I enjoy facing the boss in what looks to be alone (even though my party is blasting a hole in his back)

    But more than that, I like helping people out. These players were worth staying for. Because I can almost guarantee you that most tanks would have dropped them a lot sooner. Instead, they finished their quests and so did I. And I felt like we both came out stronger from it.
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    Tanking in MMO's for over 10 years.

    "For by fire, I am reborn!"


  2. #12
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Character
    Alyssin Kiger
    World
    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    As the healer, I'll only leave if the dungeon has only been going for a short time, or we've wiped several times and I see the completion as a hopeless task. If I'm being attacked every time I throw out a heal and it's obvious the tank isn't doing his job I'm gone.
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  3. #13
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    mouseno4's Avatar
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    Zophia Costa
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    For me personally, the moment you stop having fun. That is the sign to leave. You play this game to have fun, and the moment that stops, your whole reason for being there evaporates. This may take only one wipe, or several. It is really up to you.

    I have left groups with only one wipe - because being the healer you have the unique perspective of knowing if a run is going really well or really badly. If it was a mistake or an accident ''oh crap pulled too many'' then that is fine, we all make mistakes. But if its ''wth is a healer? and why do we need one?'' yeah im out.
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  4. #14
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I quote Valarian in everything he said. The only time I left a dungeon was when the healer started acting like a jerk and repeatedly insulted the tank - who was a friend of mine, but then again I would have done that even if I didn't know him. I have had some wonderful experiences even after being repeatedly wiped, an example would be almost a week ago during the Navel boss fight. It was hell, but we just repeatedly learned from trial and error without giving up. It felt good. Yesterday's Castrum Meridianum was horrible, because at half of it there was a mass abandon that tore the group - all because the healer wanted to rush, while some of us didn't even do it the first time. Damn, I didn't even understand WHAT I'm supposed to do because of that guy, at the end of the run! Of course, he was in the group that left. My rule of the thumb is: don't leave unless you want to strangle someone that wants to strangle you. If it's not reciprocate, we may still do it.
    ...I guess.
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  5. #15
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    Kincade's Avatar
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    Badger Badager
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    Sargatanas
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    Rogue Lv 50
    Having played MMOs for 13 years, my patience for idiot players is exhausted. I can usually tell right away if a PUG player will be a problem based on their attitude. If they rush, blame others, don't do their jobs and won't listen I don't need more than a couple of encounters to know its a lost cause. If they are inquisitive however, ask for advice or are open to suggestion, I will stick around and help...mostly because if I'm ever in a new dungeon I hope someone with more experience there will do the same for me.
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  6. #16
    Player
    Jaminos's Avatar
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    Jaminos Talon
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincade View Post
    Having played MMOs for 13 years, my patience for idiot players is exhausted. I can usually tell right away if a PUG player will be a problem based on their attitude. If they rush, blame others, don't do their jobs and won't listen I don't need more than a couple of encounters to know its a lost cause. If they are inquisitive however, ask for advice or are open to suggestion, I will stick around and help...mostly because if I'm ever in a new dungeon I hope someone with more experience there will do the same for me.
    I have been playing MMO's for over a decade myself, I still try to show patience. But we all have our reasons for doing what we do I guess.
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    Tanking in MMO's for over 10 years.

    "For by fire, I am reborn!"


  7. #17
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    BSpeerTX's Avatar
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    Character
    Onyx Glyph
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 35
    Attitude is what drives me to leave or not. I won't leave a DPS that has been in queue for 40 min, just because they've never run the dungeon and they die a lot. I won't leave a group because they're under geared and we stand no chance of completing either. (Though when SE implements gear checks, I won't have to worry about this as much.)

    If I have a group with an a-hole, I weigh whether its worth my time to stay vs the 15 min quit penalty, and I tell them to weigh whether its worth their time to keep being an a-hole vs waiting on a replacement for me.
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  8. #18
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    Kyarra's Avatar
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    Character
    Mallory Quinn
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    I have been playing MMO's for a very long time and I am usually a patient person. But I only left one PUG group so far and that is when the Tank didn't taunt off of the DPS and didn't talk in party chat even after giving him some hints on please taunt all of the mobs, not just one. The healer was also new to healing so the combined made the group doomed from the start. I gave the healer some suggestions though and I think she was getting the hang of healing. But we still wiped multiple times due to the tank not listening. Since it was getting late, I told the group I had work the next day and went to bed lol. The very next day, did the same dungeon, had the same healer, and we got through it with no problem. How one person can make or break a group sometimes. Blah.
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  9. #19
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaminos View Post
    So I have recent come across a couple of dungeons where I was torn between leaving and staying.

    My question is, when is it the right time?
    If they have bad attitudes, I'll leave. I don't game with negative people.
    If they start swearing, I'll leave. I don't game with negative people.
    If they start tossing out bigotry, I'll leave. I don't game with negative people.
    If they start ERPing, I'll leave. Its happened (in other MMOs, namely WoW)... and I don't find this the place for it.
    If they're forcing a speed run, I'll leave. I don't do speed runs.
    If the whole group by consensus decides to call it, I'll leave with them.

    Otherwise I'm generally good to keep trying, and if the group breaks up for reasons other than above, I'm rarely the first one out the door, but leave after it looks like we've no hope of finding a replacement for whoever was.
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    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

  10. #20
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    Kincade's Avatar
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    Badger Badager
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    Sargatanas
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    Rogue Lv 50
    Took me a second to figure out what ERP meant...ewww. I did quit a group in SWTOR because of that.
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