If you're pulling with Provoke you're doing it wrong

[Lucroarna]

Consider the source. This guy's a 40 archer. He probably goes all out within 5 seconds of the pull +bloodletter and then blames the tank for not having provoke.

Just a quick tidbit: Leveling PLD, did a dungeon today, took 5 flashes to get all the mobs to get on me finally. 2 archers, both attacking 2 targets. Then called me a failure at life. I left the DF midpull and left them with repair bills.

[rzr22]

Consider the source. This guy's a 40 archer. He probably goes all out within 5 seconds of the pull +bloodletter and then blames the tank for not having provoke.

Just a quick tidbit: Leveling PLD, did a dungeon today, took 5 flashes to get all the mobs to get on me finally. 2 archers, both attacking 2 targets. Then called me a failure at life. I left the DF midpull and left them with repair bills.

You can't hold aggro without me needing to wait? My brother can. You bad?

I like how you're accusing me of something when I've simply stated a bad tanking practice. Are you saying pulling with provoke is a good thing? lolnub

[Nero]

You can't hold aggro without me needing to wait? My brother can. You bad?

Learn to use Quelling Strike. Its there for a reason. <_< If you pull aggro as Archer/Bard you simply do not use Quelling Strike, which is "fail". So before you throw stones you should make sure, that you are not sitting in a House made of Glass.

I do not deny that bad Tanks do exist, but tbh i have seen way more worse Archer/Bards than i have seen bad Tanks. Most of the Times when Archers/Bards start to complain about the Tank being bad and i actually check the Battle-Log... oh surprise.. no Quelling Strike. Which is almost as bad as getting the initial Claim on Archer/Bard.

[Vanidin]

You can't hold aggro without me needing to wait? My brother can. You bad?

I like how you're accusing me of something when I've simply stated a bad tanking practice. Are you saying pulling with provoke is a good thing? lolnub

If you can go balls out as the tank pulls and not pull hate that just means you're bad. The biggest issue I run into when tanking runs is dps blowing up the mobs the second I pull, or "helpful" archers tagging the mob I "missed" in the pull. I had a blm in AK in near full darklight and ifrit or garuda weapon (don't remember which) that would drop aoe on the mobs right after I pulled them. Naturally at least 2 of them would run straight at the guy then he'd run away from the group taking the mobs with him.

I don't use provoke often to pull, only when I am trying to avoid other mobs or large pulls.

[Anonydort]

Consider the source. This guy's a 40 archer. He probably goes all out within 5 seconds of the pull +bloodletter and then blames the tank for not having provoke.

Just a quick tidbit: Leveling PLD, did a dungeon today, took 5 flashes to get all the mobs to get on me finally. 2 archers, both attacking 2 targets. Then called me a failure at life. I left the DF midpull and left them with repair bills.

you're a bad person and you're a bad player