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  1. #41
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    OrigamiElephant's Avatar
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    Origami Elephant
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Seeing as how this is a blatant exploit of broken game mechanics, I do believe some actions on accounts is warranted, Especially in those instances where people were paying good money for "runs" of HM titan using this exploit.

    This is nothing like skipping mobs to make it to a boss quick, this is knowingly breaking an encounter to progress past it.
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  2. #42
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    Ryuko's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by texhnolyze View Post
    they'll say something like "it's SE's fault to begin with by giving us a chance to do that, why should they ban us for their own fault?"
    That excuse didn't fly when the mass-Salvage ban occurred in FFXI. (For those who didn't know: there was an alliance-size event known as Salvage. It required 18 people. At the end of Salvage, you got a chest full of items. If you split up your alliance to three separate parties, the items in the chest would multiply -- thus allowing each party to get the items that were meant for the full alliance. So, there were now two more 'copies' of the original items.) When this exploit was discovered, SE mass-banned hundreds of exploiters with absolutely no mercy. I knew one person who wasn't even aware that the party they were in used this exploit until he was banned for it. I feel particularly bad for the people who were ignorant and were banned anyway.

    With the Titan exploit... Well, I don't see them mass-banning people this early in the game... and even if they did, I don't think it would be as traceable as Salvage where the server 'knew' how many items it had given out to people. Winning Titan gives you the same amount of items whether or not you are using the 'glitch' exploit, so I'm not sure if SE could even track it if they wanted to. Perhaps they would know based on how long you were in the fight (3 minutes seems super short even for the best-geared and most skilled group)... but how could they 'prove' it?
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  3. #43
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    no many titans HM running around (i guess, isnt a dungeon that many will pug or even try to beat as pug, so checking logs to see if TITAN was bugged or really fighted back (with the exploit the whole party takes 0 dmg)
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  4. #44
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    ShinrinCole's Avatar
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    Megerra Astara
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Glad to see they are working on fixing this. It's no fun when you can break a fight by doing this.. just like how I ever use the vanish+doom trick in FF6
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  5. #45
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    PandaTaru's Avatar
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    Panda Taru
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ventlus View Post
    healer would jump off cliff with regen ticking on tank, he would pull threat and then titan would just stand their trying to attack the healer. Everyone has to make sure not to beat the healer in agro as he spams medica 2 for threat. after heart phase his script breaks and he just sits their looking retarded does nothing else. This is according to blue gartyr
    oh so that's the exploit. I read about it on reddit and when I saw

    If you took 1 paladin and 7 level 50 Miners in there
    it somehow reminded me of the exploit when Ifrit was first introduced in v1.0.
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  6. #46
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    Ryuni's Avatar
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    Tear Grant
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    That excuse didn't fly when the mass-Salvage ban occurred in FFXI. (For those who didn't know: there was an alliance-size event known as Salvage. It required 18 people. At the end of Salvage, you got a chest full of items. If you split up your alliance to three separate parties, the items in the chest would multiply -- thus allowing each party to get the items that were meant for the full alliance. So, there were now two more 'copies' of the original items.) When this exploit was discovered, SE mass-banned hundreds of exploiters with absolutely no mercy. I knew one person who wasn't even aware that the party they were in used this exploit until he was banned for it. I feel particularly bad for the people who were ignorant and were banned anyway.

    With the Titan exploit... Well, I don't see them mass-banning people this early in the game... and even if they did, I don't think it would be as traceable as Salvage where the server 'knew' how many items it had given out to people. Winning Titan gives you the same amount of items whether or not you are using the 'glitch' exploit, so I'm not sure if SE could even track it if they wanted to. Perhaps they would know based on how long you were in the fight (3 minutes seems super short even for the best-geared and most skilled group)... but how could they 'prove' it?
    I'm sure a game like this would log battle times with bosses. It shouldn't be hard for them to find groups that have killed Titan in impossible short times.
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  7. #47
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ventlus View Post
    healer would jump off cliff with regen ticking on tank, he would pull threat and then titan would just stand their trying to attack the healer. Everyone has to make sure not to beat the healer in agro as he spams medica 2 for threat. after heart phase his script breaks and he just sits their looking retarded does nothing else. This is according to blue gartyr
    I wonder how many did this because they couldn't beat him legit.
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  8. #48
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    Reika's Avatar
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Durandal
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    Armorer Lv 80
    I hope they ban the shit out of all who took advantage of this exploit without reporting it, and all accomplices. Ee dont need people like that who are just going to let the content remain in ruins and profit off of it.
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  9. #49
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    Lonewolftee's Avatar
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    Tea Leblanc
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    Has anyone else gotten stuck in error 90000 after the Navel fix. After entering you get stuck in error 90000 loop and stuck in the Navel.
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  10. #50
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    HumsterMKX's Avatar
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by texhnolyze View Post
    they'll say something like "it's SE's fault to begin with by giving us a chance to do that, why should they ban us for their own fault?"
    Thats like shoplifter saying that its not his fault that he stole stuff, since the shop didnt lock up all their goods or employ security cameras or guards.

    Yes some did say that.
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