Female Miqo'te

[Aldora]

Our 1.0 characters has been changed to suit others but we don't have a choice and have lost what we were currently already happy with.

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An option for the old shape should have remained for 1.0 players and for players with Legacy status.

I would like ask you an honest question too. Do remember the polls Yoshida held, where he asked us an important question. "Would you be ok with it if we were to make drastic changes to the game?" The majority of the player base replied with "yes".

In my opinion, this would be one of those "drastic" changes.

You mentioned that the option should be available to keep the 1.0 players and players with legacy status. Lets be honest, that would be a bit selfish, doesn't it? The option should then be given to everyone or no one at all.

[Aldora]

You mentioned that the option should be available to keep the 1.0 players and players with legacy status.

I can't edit post on my phone, but what I meant was keeping the 1.0 appearance for 1.0/legacy players.

sorry for the confusion. /grovel

[Gilraen]

Honestly, being a 1.0 player myself... I don't care about the changes they made. They did what they did and for better or for worse, it's not going to be changed anytime soon. Best to just suck it up and move on. Mayhaps complain about a valid topic, like why miqo'te have tail cuts in only a small number of apparel where there shouldn't be tail cuts at all (I know, the tail clips through those garments without tail cuts, but it just seems like those that do have them give the miqo'te an odd sense of vulnerability).

[Vandark]

I would like ask you an honest question too. Do remember the polls Yoshida held, where he asked us an important question. "Would you be ok with it if we were to make drastic changes to the game?" The majority of the player base replied with "yes".

In my opinion, this would be one of those "drastic" changes.

You mentioned that the option should be available to keep the 1.0 players and players with legacy status. Lets be honest, that would be a bit selfish, doesn't it? The option should then be given to everyone or no one at all.

Unfortunately no I didn't join in on those forums back then or know about it really, and I never expected that any drastic changes would involve physical alterations on our characters appearance as far as there body structure and shape.

I learned a great deal about these changes when I made my forum, a great deal indeed.

Others have lost shape also but not so much that there body has been completely re designed. The Miquo'te female appears from my research to now resemble a closer appearance relating to a feline in forms of it's body shape. Previously it had a much more strait back with a human woman's body shape. I believe they decided on this alteration because of the way the male Miquo'te has been structured to resemble this same crook/curved back and over extended shoulder blades, with very small lower proportions.

I feel like these smaller lower proportions and curvature of the back suit the male character but seeing my female changed to share this appearance is shocking to me.

And yes I do agree this seems like a very drastic change.

And in response to you concerning what you quoted me on.

I was saying an option for 1.0 players and legacy players alike, for them but not exclusively for them, just for the sake of them. It's the only race that has had such an extensive alteration to the characters over all form, wait, shape, structure and appearance.

It only appears the same as the 1.0 model from the front.

The entire time I requested they bring back the old Miquo'te body was for everyone as a second body choice. I am a huge fan of the original Human body shaped Miquo'te, this one doesn't appeal to me as much and at times makes me long for my old character back.

But of course thats impossible now because 1.0 no longer exists, my characters body could closer resemble my last character tho if the option was added.

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Also I need to ask you more about this thread, when was this thread about drastic changes held?
It wasn't during the 2.0 beta was it?

[Aldora]

So, if I understood correctly, The Miq'otes from 1.0 had more Hyur like proportions and you would like to see it returned. Well, I think that it would be very much possible if SE were to introduce "mixed races". Something like a half Miq'ote, half Hyur (a Miy'ur if you will).

this was one of the items in the polls I mentioned.

Also I need to ask you more about this thread, when was this thread about drastic changes held?
It wasn't during the 2.0 beta was it?

Oh no, it was at the beginning of 2011. When I look at the month you've created your forum account, I can imagine that you've not seen those polls. Sorry about that.

The results are mentioned in the Letter if the Producer 1 (from Jan 2011) and 5 (from March 2011). You can find them in the news archive on Lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com (the old Lodestone).

[amnie]

I hated the female mi'quote models in 1.0
in ARR I have 2.

your tears are tasty.

[Vandark]

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I do have outstanding evidence now to prove that the female Miquo'te has been completely altered.
In 1.0 Aldora the Female Miquo'te had a completely human shaped body structure, larger hips smaller breasts tho and thicker legs, rear was not flat, arms were slightly thicker too and there was no catlike curvature of the spine.

I hated the female mi'quote models in 1.0
in ARR I have 2.

your tears are tasty.

Good I am happy for you, wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be happy?
I played 1.0 for it's entire duration on my Female Miquo'te

[Ryihito]

I hated the female mi'quote models in 1.0
in ARR I have 2.

your tears are tasty.

.... What?

[Aldora]

Although I don't agree with your statement that the Miqotes beauty has been "crippled", I don't question the results of your extensive research.

I can't write large posts explaining my opinions, suggestions, etc because i can only post on my phone at the moment... But, what I meant to say was: You wish to have your 1.0 look again. That much is clear to all. The Miq'otes have been altered (probably to fit the male counterpart and lore), that much is clear too.

We can't expect SE to implement a complete different body structure within our current customization options for the Miq'ote just so that we can get that same look back. No matter if we wanted this look or not.

So, thinking ahead... How about a solution which lies in the middle of it by introducing a new "race" in the form of a mixed race?

If such a new mixed race will be introduced lateron, you could use that Phail of Fantasy to change your appearance then (if the new mixed race suits your taste).

[Vandark]

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Similar to Miquo'te Sun and Miquo'te Moon back in 1.0.

You would choose the race Miquo'te in the character creation screen, then it would go into two different types of Miquo'te.
You would then eather choose the Miquo'te sun or the Miquo'te moon, the body types could work the same way.

But they could introduce the body type for Miquo'te as you say as a new hybrid of Miquo'te reintroducing the orrigonal female human structure.

IMO it's kind of a shame that instead of simply making the male Miquo'te match to the female they felt the need to change the female to suit the male instead while altering all the previous Miquo'te players in the process.