Amdapor Keep Changes Unfair

[Rhen]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

[civilpaw]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

Basically this, with the exception that in WoW you also got good gear from the heroics instead of crap that was only intended to be an interim until you could afford the gear from the currency.

Heck, with the changes to the Justice system they put in to MoP, the gear you get via the currency is actually worse than the gear you get from the dungeon. The valor gear only covers 2 slots? 3? Dont remember, and it is only available for the starting tier. The higher tier stuff is from reputations... but thats a whole other can of very, very dead worms.

[Alphawins]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

that's 8 hours a week with a zero wait time queue. add in the timer for dps classes and your looking at 12. Realistically speaking you're looking closer to 14 with failed runs factored in.

[h0tNstilettos]

I love how all the people that rushed content AND are ignoring all other content because all they want to do is get to Binding Coil NOW are complaining. Obviously WoW has more content because it has been out longer. No MMO releases with a crap ton to do, especially if you're one of the rushers that ignore 75% of the game's content to only clear end game dungeons and that's it.

If you only play an MMO to play 1 class and clear all dungeons, then done, then you should expect to run out of content fast. There's a lot more you could be doing in this game besides running AK over and over until you vomit. Did you ever consider limiting AK runs to a couple or few a day, and between those runs doing one of the many other things offered in this game like working towards your achievements? Or work on leveling a class you don't have at 50 already? Or grouping with FC friends to work on other stuff? Or working on maxing everything GC related? Or working on your minion collection?

There is a lot more to do than running AK over and over. You can easily mix that in with other stuff you haven't done yet. You people are so blinded by rushing to enter Binding Coil of Bahamut that you fail to see all the other options of stuff to do to make the grind more bearable. In all honesty I would do everything possible to avoid getting to Binding Coil before Crystal Tower comes out simply because Crystal Tower was meant to be done before Coil, and I would rather do it as intended.

I don't even have a class over level 30 yet because I have been enjoying everything the game has to offer, including starting every gathering and crafting class, plus a second battle class, and I've been playing since phase 3, phase 4 for current character. I've also been working on achievements and my minion collection. Based on current projections I will still be working on this stuff by the time the first major patch comes out.

If this is how you go into MMOs you play, then really you either shouldn't play them, or wait until the MMO you want to play has been out at least half a year to a year, or after the first couple major patches, so there is plenty more content.

EDIT due to daily limit.

Limiting the one dungeon at lvl 50 that offers any type of meaningful reward is absolutely genius, man i wish they would limit the times you can run it, maybe like 2 per month.

It is genius if you don't want to burn out.

Please show me the manual that states the proper way to play a mmo. I was under the impression you do what is fun to you. This copout is no excuse for the severe lack of endgame play this game currently has to offer. I do enjoy this game very much, but it needs more endgame options desperately and quickly to increase the player base to ensure a prosperous future.

No, it has plenty of options. You're just technically saying it needs more of the stuff you find fun. MMOs have a variety of things to do. The game doesn't revolve around just running dungeons and gearing to clear the game's current end game dungeon(s), though obviously that is a big part of the game, but not the only focus. No one said you had to play a certain way or that there's a proper way to play, but if you only enjoy doing one specific thing, such as running dungeons, then you really should expect this in a new MMO. No new MMO has an infinite amount of one specific category of activity. There's only so much that can be put into a game until patches come. It's self-centered for you to expect them to have most of that space being dungeons when they have other things to fit into the game as well for variety.

Every single MMO is like this at launch, even more so in today's world as many are so experienced playing MMOs that they can get through the stuff faster. If I wanted to I could have been at 50 already if I had spent most of my time FATE chaining and running dungeons, and if it was all I was interested in I'm sure I'd be extremely bored once I hit cap and and needed to grind tomestones. I will admit that leveling is too fast in this game mainly due to the abuse of FATEs, but even in a slower paced leveling new MMO you'll still run out of stuff to do if power-leveling to current level cap, or if this part of the game is you're only interest until a new major patch is released.

[Alphawins]

Did you ever consider limiting AK runs to a couple or few a day

Limiting the one dungeon at lvl 50 that offers any type of meaningful reward is absolutely genius, man i wish they would limit the times you can run it, maybe like 2 per month.

If this is how you go into MMOs you play, then really you either shouldn't play them, or wait until the MMO you want to play has been out at least half a year to a year, or after the first couple major patches, so there is plenty more content.

Please show me the manual that states the proper way to play a mmo. I was under the impression you do what is fun to you. This copout is no excuse for the severe lack of endgame play this game currently has to offer. I do enjoy this game very much, but it needs more endgame options desperately and quickly to increase the player base to ensure a prosperous future.