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    YanDere's Avatar
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    I think it was harder just because it was the first time.
    Yes, there are more bosses, but there are significantly less trash mobs, so you have the time for the 6 bosses of this dungeon, and it is still faster than CM if you do it well.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    I think it was harder just because it was the first time.
    Yes, there are more bosses, but there are significantly less trash mobs, so you have the time for the 6 bosses of this dungeon, and it is still faster than CM if you do it well.
    Current Record after 4 runs of PM with a server group (not DF) was 24 minutes. There are less trash mobs, but it's also possible to skip past some of them because they don't aggro unless you walk in front of them. It's basically a boss rush.

    Now the time limit on PM I have a feeling is designed around watching all the cutscenes and failing a few times at each boss. I've only done CM once with a DF group and they rushed it so fast that the last two bosses were run while my PC was still loading the cutscene before them. (Auto-skip cutscene option please) Particuarly the last boss where I saw the "15 seconds" before the cancel box even came up. (The tank must have a SSD)
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    Cirra Maru
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    It takes 40 minutes minimum to clear AK now, before people could exploit it in a way that only took 15 minutes...

    The changes are not unfair, I hit 50 after the changes. What can you complain about if you've never experienced AK before the changes?
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    Mishaela Aveeli
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    It takes 40 minutes minimum to clear AK now, before people could exploit it in a way that only took 15 minutes...
    Maybe 40m if you're in fresh 50 gear, sure. Currently, if group has relics and other decent gear and the healer helps DPS you're looking at like 25 minutes to burn straight through the place even without sac pull shenanigans (tank chain pulling trash, first boss dead at 2nd big golem jump, wall dead before or during 2nd repel, last boss dead before third ID).
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    Last edited by Mishaela; 10-10-2013 at 09:54 PM.

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    Kurald Thyrllan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    It takes 40 minutes minimum to clear AK now, before people could exploit it in a way that only took 15 minutes...

    The changes are not unfair, I hit 50 after the changes. What can you complain about if you've never experienced AK before the changes?
    AK was cleared in 15 minutes recently. As relics become more common the average clear time is being reduced dramatically, plus people discovering you can still skip a lot of trash.

    Oh sure it's unfair. We should demand a year of free play and effortless Relic weapons. Lets also bring back the Wandering Minstrel from the beta.

    Would you also like an SE employee to spoon feed you as you play?
    Are you capable of arguing without wild exaggerations?
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    At this point, I think fairness is less of an issue than mind numbingly boring.
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    Raze Krauser
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    Marauder Lv 50
    to those who say it's unfair, grow the hell up!

    considering the alternative is to power-level your crafting and making HQ ilvl 70 gear (w/ IV materia); which is better than Darklight. You still have it pretty good if your goal is to get ilvl 70 gear and be endgame ready....
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    Ingrid Randgrior
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Oh sure it's unfair. We should demand a year of free play and effortless Relic weapons. Lets also bring back the Wandering Minstrel from the beta.

    Would you also like an SE employee to spoon feed you as you play?
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    Madas Ahatter
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    lol, wasnt long ago ppl whined the game was to easy and simple, now ppl whine its been made harder! im guessing this the 1st mmorpg for alot of you, if you think a few months is a long time to get decent gear.. In comparison to other mmorpgs ive played over the years 3 months is nothing! ...seriously, if you want insta-win then mmorpgs aint for you tbh, my suggestion to you whiners... /quit ;-)
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