Amdapor Keep Changes Unfair

[Etgar]

Ak doesn't take a hour to finish, not sure who some of you are running with. I hit 50 post nerfs and have almost all ak/dl armor and my relic in a week, as a dps.
You need Phil, do CM not AM. 30 minutes in a much easier area and you are up 100 tomes.

[Zdenka]

Ak doesn't take a hour to finish, not sure who some of you are running with. I hit 50 post nerfs and have almost all ak/dl armor and my relic in a week, as a dps.
You need Phil, do CM not AM. 30 minutes in a much easier area and you are up 100 tomes.

Today we were doing AK's in 18m 20s, and we were doing Praetorium in 20-22m earlier in the week. I don't think CM is the best way to get seals.

[mr_wazzabi]

Today we were doing AK's in 18m 20s, and we were doing Praetorium in 20-22m earlier in the week. I don't think CM is the best way to get seals.

Cm is easier than pm due to the cannons and no instant death aoe like with ultima and giaus

[YanDere]

Cm is easier than pm due to the cannons and no instant death aoe like with ultima and giaus

Hm, I personally think that CM is not easier, it's a lot longer and in Praetorium nothing causes instant death, there are no difficult bosses there.
With my gear (2 DL, 2 AK, robe and gloves lv50 and shield lv43) I did several Prae runs in 19-22 minutes as Whtie Mage.
With a good WHM, a good SCH and 6 dds you can do it even with the worst gear ever.

[mr_wazzabi]

Hm, I personally think that CM is not easier, it's a lot longer and in Praetorium nothing causes instant death, there are no difficult bosses there.
With my gear (2 DL, 2 AK, robe and gloves lv50 and shield lv43) I did several Prae runs in 19-22 minutes as Whtie Mage.
With a good WHM, a good SCH and 6 dds you can do it even with the worst gear ever.

Don't you have more bosses to fight in pm? I forgot as i only played it once, but i felt it was much harder for me than cm

[Marionette]

The people who are calling this a grind have clearly never did weapon trials in ffxi

[Virgil]

Why won't this thread die

[SyntheticSyndicate]

The crafting ilvl70 gear is actually better than Darklight simply for the fact that you can have materia slots, which makes it better. Granted, you are taking a hit to def and mag def, but gaining additional stats.

[Sephirah]

So I never saw this thread until now, and it made me wonder if something just changed. But I see it was made last month... I've been running AK regularly for myth and on average a "normal" run takes 20-40 minutes. Is this really what you all consider to be "unreasonable"? Because if you aren't willing to run a 30 minute dungeon, then I'm sorry, but you might want to look for your source of entertainment elsewhere.

(What I'm defining as a normal run is fighting all bosses CORRECTLY, the one time I had someone in my group try to exploit one of the bosses I refused to tank until they left the group so we could replace them, haha.
and killing all trash that needs to be pulled to get there. I think maybe a total of 3 packs of mobs are avoided throughout the entire run, and it isn't by some exploit, it's by walking right by them, their aggro range just isn't large enough, so why bother pulling it?)

[Lunavi]

To everyone thinking this is unfair:

It is indeed unfair. It is a change of the rules. BUT how unfair do you think it is for those running/beating Coil now when they are undergeared when we later will run coil in Crystal Tower gear or other later game gear? How unfair do you think it will feel for US when this grind will eventually be unneccesairy due to some other dungeon with better drops that will make you able to totally bypass the phil and myth grind? Rules change in an MMO. It is a neccesity. If something is broken it needs to be fixed and the developers thought that the ability to gain more tomes by speedrunning was broken.

And it is also needed to make it easy for others than the first group of players to reach end game. Isn't that unfair aswell? That they reach a dungeon we had to play for several months to reach in a mere month?