So, what's wrong with FFXIV: ARR right now?

[Stormsoul]

i still don't understand the viewpoint of blaming the fate grinders instead of SE. once you level up your main class through the story, the only ways to consistently gain EXP are from dungeon grinding or FATE grinding. they're both equally as trivial, except one method (dungeons) is extremely impractical to a large portion of the playerbase (DPS players). battle leves give 'meh' experience and can only be done a few times each day.

FATE grinding is necessary unless you play a tank or healer and want to grind dungeons, which is still worse EXP in the end. SE has not provided enough alternatives to gain EXP on your other classes. it's not the player's fault for realizing this and taking part. you call players out on being destructive and whatnot, but what do you want them to do? sit around with their thumbs up their butt waiting in dungeon Q because you feel that their FATE grinding should be stopped?