Glowing weapons

[Sephr]

If it's on EVERY weapon in the entire freaking game, then yeah, it would lose a bit of its luster, since it would no longer be special. But as I pointed out earlier, even in WoW most of the equipment doesn't glow at all. Glowing effects are generally reserved for only a few weapons here and there, so that it remains special and unique.

Have you even played recently? Every weapon glows at 85. Those that dont naturally are guaranteed to be equipped with one of the blinding new level 85 enchants. Seriously, ever sword looks like a freaking lightning rod.

By the way, a lot of you guys must really hate the Fourth of July. All those vibrant colors, bright bursting lights, and blazing fireworks must all look so tacky to you. </sarcasm>

I have absolutely no idea why you said this, do you want a firework display in your pocket? If it's sarcasm it pretty much goes against what you said before because.. you're agreeing that these overdone effects look stupid?

God I don't know. The bottom line is, a very subtle aura on some of the top equipment occasionally would be kinda cool, but NO to putting it on anything else and it being anything less than the best stuff.

Sorry, but using ridiculous exaggerations doesn't help your side of the argument. At all.

I believe that was pretty much the point of the comment, suggesting that something should be possible because the lore doesnt say it's impossible is a totally stupid point to make.

Eorzea is a fucking fantasy world! We don't have to limit the items in the game so they only resemble real-life weapons when the game's world was never even intended to mimic real-life in the first place

Nack before the game was released (Cant find the interview now, if i can i'll link it) i remember Tanaka and Yoshida (the art designer one, not the new one) saying that their intention behind FFXIV's design was that, on the surface, most things would appear to be physically possible and thus grounded. That said, we also have magic so the point doesn't apply that much, but we're never likely to see them to deter wildly from this style choice.

I don't really know why you're so intent on trying desperately to shoot down other people's OPINIONS, ones that personally I agree with more than yours. Are you scared that a less-than-unanimous decision in the thread won't result in it happening? If that's the case I wouldn't worry, even if it was a whole thread of people wanting swords that shoot rainbows, if the art team says no it's a no.

OK. You win. I'm done.
Trying to explain my opinion is a wasted effort it seems. Please have a good day regardless of our differences.

S/he absolutely doesn't win anything, and if s/he thinks that an overzealous and aggressive way of dealing with others on a subject s/he cares about is going to get the attention of devs, s/he's pretty much lost anyway.

[Rhianu]

Have you even played recently? Every weapon glows at 85. Those that dont naturally are guaranteed to be equipped with one of the blinding new level 85 enchants. Seriously, ever sword looks like a freaking lightning rod.

I was talking about all the equipment in the game overall, at every level, not just at the level cap. If you look at all the levels as a whole, instead of just focusing on the maximum level, you realize that yes, overall glowing equipment in WoW is really more the exception than the rule.

I have absolutely no idea why you said this, do you want a firework display in your pocket? If it's sarcasm it pretty much goes against what you said before because.. you're agreeing that these overdone effects look stupid?

<Reading comprehension.> <Do you have it?>

I was trying to point out that fireworks look cool. Are you saying you hate fireworks?

I believe that was pretty much the point of the comment, suggesting that something should be possible because the lore doesnt say it's impossible is a totally stupid point to make.

There's a huge difference between something as common and versatile as light, and something incredibly specific like a flying hippopotamus wearing a tophat and barfing rainbows. The first has a wide diversification and can be applied in an infinite number of ways to ensure that its in keeping with whatever art style and theme you've chosen for your work, while the second is really not very flexible at all due to how specific it is, and thus only has a very limited application, and wouldn't necessarily fit in with every setting.

To suggest that something specific and something general are equatable to one another is absurd.

Nack before the game was released (Cant find the interview now, if i can i'll link it) i remember Tanaka and Yoshida (the art designer one, not the new one) saying that their intention behind FFXIV's design was that, on the surface, most things would appear to be physically possible and thus grounded. That said, we also have magic so the point doesn't apply that much, but we're never likely to see them to deter wildly from this style choice.

Except it doesn't matter what the old team said, because they're not in charge of the game anymore, mostly because they made bad decisions. Plus, in case you've forgotten, we've already gotten a response from a community representative saying the current dev team plans to eventually add glowing weapons sometime in the future.

We spoke with the development team about the possibility of more glowing equipment or weapons, and they said that there are some nice ideas being presented in the thread and that they would like to do it! Though it might be sometime far in the future, they hope that everyone will look forward to 'em!

(P.S. I agree, the Lantern Shield looks awesome)

[Sephr]

I was talking about all the equipment in the game overall, at every level, not just at the level cap. If you look at all the levels as a whole, instead of just focusing on the maximum level, you realize that yes, overall glowing equipment in WoW is really more the exception than the rule.

And the vast majority of characters you'll see in the cities (where everyone congregates) are 85. You are correct that there are more levels in the game, but generally, that's where everyone is. Even then, many players pre-85 do enchant their weapons with lovely tones of radioactive green for your viewing pleasure. I think it's fair to say that glowing weapons 'lost their luster' in wow a hell of a long time ago.

<Reading comprehension.> <Do you have it?>

I was trying to point out that fireworks look cool. Are you saying you hate fireworks?

My reading comprehension is really good, and thanks for the little FFXI auto-translate throwback there, cute. That said, what the hell do fireworks have to do with anything, unless you want your lantern shield to look like a pinwheel? Furthermore, how does the fourth of July fit into it? Are you saying a 1-day a year holiday somehow is relatable to the weapons of a fantasy game? If you'd care to explain, I'd absolutely love to know what you meant by it. I don't think it has anything to do with my grasp of the English language, however.

There's a huge difference between something as common and versatile as light, and something incredibly specific like a flying hippopotamus wearing a tophat and barfing rainbows. The first has a wide diversification and can be applied in an infinite number of ways to ensure that its in keeping with whatever art style and theme you've chosen for your work, while the second is really not very flexible at all due to how specific it is, and thus only has a very limited application, and wouldn't necessarily fit in with every setting.

That wasn't really the point of what he was saying, it was more of a general "Just because it doesn't say it shouldn't be there, doesn't mean it should" type of statement. I'm not sure why you're attacking my comprehension when that was a fairly simple concept. Also, I think saying that the 'application of light' is the same as adding a glowing effect to items is a bit of a stretch. I'd say the enchantment of items to give a glowing effect would be a fairly specific element in the FFXIV universe.

Except it doesn't matter what the old team said, because they're not in charge of the game anymore, mostly because they made bad decisions. Plus, in case you've forgotten, we've already gotten a response from a community representative saying the current dev team plans to eventually add glowing weapons sometime in the future.

True enough, however the art team has not changed (And I'd hope it doesn't, Yoshida's drawings and designs are fantastic! <3 Ivalice from FF12). I'd expect that if it is introduced it falls in line with their idea of how it should be.

I really can't be bothered to keep re quoting all the time, so if I reply I'll stop doing that. However I do think this still stands:

S/he absolutely doesn't win anything, and if s/he thinks that an overzealous and aggressive way of dealing with others on a subject s/he cares about is going to get the attention of devs, s/he's pretty much lost anyway.

You're still being overly aggressive and lashing out at people for having differing opinions from you. I've even said I'd like some glow effects in strict moderation, the only reason I'm replying is because of your aggressive approach at trying to beat Gramul's sensible and grounded argument into submission. I'm simply not going to agree with over-use of glow-effects, and your referencing of fireworks in your arguement for whatever reason (Still don't get it) suggests (I think) we're probably just at different ends of the spectrum on it.

[MistyMew]

a bit of glitter and glow imo would only add good to the game. it is visually stunning and some "fantasy" added to armor and weapons could only enhance my personal appreciation for the game.

nothing wrong with it in anyway in my eyes. to each his own. i respect those that dont like the idea as much as those that love it. no one opinion is right or wrong.

some adore the idea others will despise it. adding it in moderation may soothe the majority then.

ff14 is lacking the essence of what it means to me, the "Fantasy" factor is missing, in the terrain, the lore the characters appearance etc. this would be one small way to add some mystic look to it.

[zoekwon]

this game is perfect right now!~

[Nuru]

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[Warm]

No thanks for glowing weapons !!
I even hated FF XIV Squall's last weapon ever since I saw it(whatever lazer thinggy)
So no glowing weapons please

[Kallera]

There needs to be an auto lock feature where if a topic is not posted on within a certain amount of time it is to be locked...

[Reinheart]

I guess I didn't check this thread until it was bumped by Warm.

Overall I say NO to glowing weapons BUT like the opening movie of this game I would say OK on some situations like if your weapon has En-spell casted on and only while the En-spell lasts on it.

Also instead of having the effect on all the time, would be fine on some weapons say like classic FF weapon. Flame Tongue (that how you spell in English? JP is flametan - so dunno if its tongue...anyways) only when you hit the mob and the flame effect happens to show flame on the blade but go away after. (How you gonna put flaming weapon on your side? Even Luke Skywalker and those Jedi/Sith have to put the damn sabers away)

I'll just put that in here since the thread was dug up and wanted to comment on it lol.

[Kallera]

I guess I didn't check this thread until it was bumped by Warm.

Overall I say NO to glowing weapons BUT like the opening movie of this game I would say OK on some situations like if your weapon has En-spell casted on and only while the En-spell lasts on it.

Also instead of having the effect on all the time, would be fine on some weapons say like classic FF weapon. Flame Tongue (that how you spell in English? JP is flametan - so dunno if its tongue...anyways) only when you hit the mob and the flame effect happens to show flame on the blade but go away after. (How you gonna put flaming weapon on your side? Even Luke Skywalker and those Jedi/Sith have to put the damn sabers away)

I'll just put that in here since the thread was dug up and wanted to comment on it lol.

It is flametongue. A similar effect was in Dragon Age's "<Elemental> Weapons" Spells, except the effect seemed to stay on the blade after you put it away. (It was "magic" fire, after all.)