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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    Maybe opinions can't be technically wrong, but they can certainly be biased, misinformed, and ignorant.
    Is it really that important to you? Does the fact that I don't want glowing weapons in Final Fantasy Fourteen really bother you enough to make implied accusations about my views? That I'm somehow ignorant or misinformed about something as arbitrary as personal taste?

    Why do you care? I just don't agree with you. It doesn't make me any better or worse than you are and I am surprised this conversation has gone on as long as it has.

    Let's just agree to disagree and move on before we clog up this topic any more with our ranting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gracious View Post
    Can a little glow really hurt that much ; ;? Just a little. Not too much. Why is everyone so scared of the glow <.>; It's like a NM or something reading some of these posts. Future NM "The Glow Monster!"
    No one is "scared of it", it looks painfully tacky seeing everyone running around like a lightshow. It's not cool, it's not epic in any way.

    It's also one of the glitchest visual effects most engines suffer from MMO wise. Subtle glows are cool because it's not IN YOUR FACE. Becoming a beacon of light? Naaaaaaaah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Is it really that important to you? Does the fact that I don't want glowing weapons in Final Fantasy Fourteen really bother you enough to make implied accusations about my views? That I'm somehow ignorant or misinformed about something as arbitrary as personal taste?

    Why do you care? I just don't agree with you. It doesn't make me any better or worse than you are and I am surprised this conversation has gone on as long as it has.

    Let's just agree to disagree and move on before we clog up this topic any more with our ranting.
    I care because I want to see FFXIV grow and improve and become a better game, and one of the ways to accomplish that is by creating weapons and armor that have unique and interesting visual flair to them. And one of the most powerful visual effects in any artist's arsenal is light. If you take away that tool, and say that the artists can't use ever that tool under any circumstances no matter what, just because you have some irrational personal bias against the tool, what you're doing is crippling their creative freedom and limiting not only the potential of the artists, but the potential of the game itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    No one is &quot;scared of it&quot;, it looks painfully tacky seeing everyone running around like a lightshow. It's not cool, it's not epic in any way.
    If it's on EVERY weapon in the entire freaking game, then yeah, it would lose a bit of its luster, since it would no longer be special. But as I pointed out earlier, even in WoW most of the equipment doesn't glow at all. Glowing effects are generally reserved for only a few weapons here and there, so that it remains special and unique.

    By the way, a lot of you guys must really hate the Fourth of July. All those vibrant colors, bright bursting lights, and blazing fireworks must all look so tacky to you. </sarcasm>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    And one of the most powerful visual effects in any artist's arsenal is light. If you take away that tool, and say that the artists can't use ever it under any circumstances no matter what, just because you have some irrational personal bias against that tool, what you're doing is crippling their creative freedom and limiting not only the potential of the artists, but the potential of the game itself.
    When did I say I had anything against using light as a tool? I'm fine with them using it when it makes sense and plays well into design.

    I just feel that the beauty of a weapon is in its details, and putting lights on them takes away from that beauty. I think light is a spectacular tool, but I just feel it's better suited for environments and I feel the lore of FFXIV doesn't work well with consistently glowing weapons.

    I'm glad you care about this game and I can tell you have a lot of passion for making it the best product it can be in your eyes, and even though I disagree with your opinion, I accept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I feel the lore of FFXIV doesn't work well with consistently glowing weapons.
    There is jackshit in FFXIV's lore that prohibits weapons and armor from glowing. Tell me, what in the bloody hell leads you to believe glowing things wouldn't fit in with the game's lore? Is there some quest with a mystical wizard in a cave and a majestic story-arc that goes into great detail about how all glowing things were eating by the Dread Dragon Elgoroth, the Destroyer of Light? No? There isn't such a quest in the game? Well, then I don't see how you can say glowing things wouldn't fit in with the story of the game, if the game's story makes no specific rules against them.

    Sorry if I seem a little harsh, but I really see no logical reason whatsoever for your stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    There is jackshit in FFXIV's lore that prohibits weapons from glowing. Tell me, what in the bloody hell leads you to believe glowing things wouldn't fit in with the game's lore? Is there some quest with a mystical wizard in a cave and a majestic story-arc that goes into great detail about how all glowing things were eating by the Dread Dragon Elgoroth, the Destroyer of Light? No? There isn't such a quest in the game? Well, then I don't see how you can say glowing things wouldn't fit in with the story of the game, if the game's story makes no specific rules against them.
    Relax. I just personally feel that the lore does not lend itself well to the idea. It's just a stylistic choice that I feel would miss match with the overall theme.

    Is there anyone that says you can't have them in the world? No; but there isn't anything that says you can't have flying purple hippos wearing top hats and vomiting rainbows either.

    In XIV, everything about the weapons and gear feels hand crafted and real, as if they could actually exist in the Late Middle Ages to the Early Modern Era. I feel glowing weapons would fall away from that. That's what I mean when I say that I feel the lore does not lend itself well to the idea. There is magic that could be used to temporarily enchant weapons, but that's really the furthest extent that I personally care to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Is there anyone that says you can't have them in the world? No; but there isn't anything that says you can't have flying purple hippos wearing top hats and vomiting rainbows either.
    Sorry, but using ridiculous exaggerations doesn't help your side of the argument. At all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    In XIV, everything about the weapons and gear feels hand crafted and real, as if they could actually exist in the Late Middle Ages to the Early Modern Era. I feel glowing weapons would fall away from that.
    Eorzea is a fucking fantasy world! We don't have to limit the items in the game so they only resemble real-life weapons when the game's world was never even intended to mimic real-life in the first place. -_-

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    There is magic that could be used to temporarily enchant weapons, but that's really the furthest extent that I personally care to see.
    Why should magic be limited to temporary enhancements? Is there some rule in the game's story that say magic is only temporary, and that it fades with time? No? There isn't such a rule? Alright then.
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    OK. You win. I'm done.
    Trying to explain my opinion is a wasted effort it seems. Please have a good day regardless of our differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    OK. You win. I'm done.
    Trying to explain my opinion is a wasted effort it seems. Please have a good day regardless of our differences.
    He really wants his glowing weapons. Really.
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