Most Complex DPS Class

[Azunia]

Lots of bard hate in this piece. They're not as simple as you guys make it out to be, there is complexity to them at 50. You guys make it sound brain dead.

I don't believe there is any hate towards bards. Only the fact other classes have a difficulty factor to each one. Brd tends to be one of, if not the easiest to maximize dps with little puinishment. I would add blm is the best dps, but knowing how to use it takes practice unless you like wasting most of your mp on a few skills. What everyone is trying to say is that other jobs are more complex and take understanding. I believe melee jobs really need to know what they are doing. People prefer recruiting brds than taking mnk or drg in any boss fight due to the risk of him dying or not performing enough dps. Its just the way the mechanics are.

[LunarEmerald]

It is easy to maximize Bard's dps but Bard is more than dps. It's part support. It has more responsibility than the other dps jobs.

Bard is most tricky when you're trying to balance support and dps. Leaving Mage's Ballad up longer than needed severely hurts your dps and hurts the group overall. You have to pay close attention to the healer's MP.

[Nibb]

It is easy to maximize Bard's dps but Bard is more than dps. It's part support. It has more responsibility than the other dps jobs.

Bard is most tricky when you're trying to balance support and dps. Leaving Mage's Ballad up longer than needed severely hurts your dps and hurts the group overall. You have to pay close attention to the healer's MP.

Umm.. that's.. not hard to do. At all.

[Moesugi]

Whenever this kind of thread pop up, DRG/MNK will come in, QQ how hard their rotation is and still get beaten by BRD

[Nibb]

Whenever this kind of thread pop up, DRG/MNK will come in, QQ how hard their rotation is and still get beaten by BRD

Well I'm sure you're smart enough to be able to tell how that will work out in the end, right?

[LunarEmerald]

Umm.. that's.. not hard to do. At all.

Who said anything about hard? The only hard thing about this game is Titan HM and Turn 4-5 Coil.

[Akashi]

Getting a bit uneasy looking at the DRG Rotations.. or the game in general really. One of the biggest problems with WoW is ability bloat. Was hoping FFXIV would have it better.. but it seems to be even worse! Hopefully macros will be able to save the day so I don't have to have more than 24 ability keys bound. Would have been nice to have a combo system so some keybinds could be used more than once, or a streamlined system that uses few abilities but gets its depth from how they interact with other abilities (GW2).

I think the former would have been better. FF is known for its many abilities, after all. Alas... hindsight. Not looking forward to higher levels.

[Bossmoney]

The lancer has to move around, but the ability rotation is a very simple priority system. It's like a baby noob version of MNK.

And I think almost every DRG will admit freely, MNK is harder to play than DRG. But to say any other class is close to being 2nd is just being delusional. Rotation is longer, non-symetrical, and positional based. Again, not as much as MNK, but more than any of the other classes.

You keep bringing up one dev making one comment in a beta forum. You should know developer intention ≠ reality. Developer intention is BRD = support. Reality is BRD = DPS Ranger who can sing MP ballad about 4-5 minutes into boss fight, then turns off and back to DPS.

Sorry but you just come across as a Summoner who feels butthurt that people have been calling SMN easier to play, so instead of targeting MNKs, because they're so obviously the hardest class, you target DRG, because you'll fool the players that only played them up to level 15.

[silentwindfr]

i have both mnk and drg 50 (yep) and from my viewpoint MNK is harder to play, not because the cycles is complex, no because do it all the time is nearly impossible.
fight like ifrit that make you unable to attack even for 10 second screw the mnk all the way, you will loose your buff and will restart square one of your dps... meaning as the lowest one.

DRG come after, you need to take care of your position, make sure no magical attack hit you (or you will suffer if not die) you have a very long cycle with a lot of possibility off gcd. is not hard, but that depend of your tank, of your capacity to be where you need to be at the right time.

i will not talk of the other too much since i have'nt tested them too much at high level... but i doubt they can be more complex than Monk or Dragoon. anyone saying the inverse have clearly only read the forum and never try to play it.

[LunarEmerald]

If Bard = support then Square wouldn't have swapped its conjurer skills with pugilist. Square sees it as dps. Support is just something it does on the side.