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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Go loo kin the other thread at the math. For min-maxing, DRG has about a 27 GCD non-repeating rotation. The problem people are seeing as to how they can say, " DRG isn't hard. " Is because it only has 2 abilities that are stuck on the positional requirements. Granted if you don't land those 2, then you're dps drops like a rock, but all the abilities chained after don't require the positionals, just to be chained. This still requires dancing around the boss and can screw you in a high mobility fight; Not as much as it screws over monks though.

    And saying DRG has the easiest off GCD abilities is laughable. The longest animations that lock you in, so if you time it right and an aoe opens up under your feet. Well too bad, dead dps.
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
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    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

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    Chance Skeleton
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    Lancer Lv 34
    Lots of bard hate in this piece. They're not as simple as you guys make it out to be, there is complexity to them at 50. You guys make it sound brain dead.
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton View Post
    Lots of bard hate in this piece. They're not as simple as you guys make it out to be, there is complexity to them at 50. You guys make it sound brain dead.
    Because they are braindead, especially with the BL/Me macros :P
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    Azunia Niyoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton View Post
    Lots of bard hate in this piece. They're not as simple as you guys make it out to be, there is complexity to them at 50. You guys make it sound brain dead.
    I don't believe there is any hate towards bards. Only the fact other classes have a difficulty factor to each one. Brd tends to be one of, if not the easiest to maximize dps with little puinishment. I would add blm is the best dps, but knowing how to use it takes practice unless you like wasting most of your mp on a few skills. What everyone is trying to say is that other jobs are more complex and take understanding. I believe melee jobs really need to know what they are doing. People prefer recruiting brds than taking mnk or drg in any boss fight due to the risk of him dying or not performing enough dps. Its just the way the mechanics are.

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    Lunar Emerald
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Bard

    Somebody is requesting a song -> play desired song (singing is like casting. You have to stand still for a few seconds. Easy to get hit by aoes)
    Healer's MP is low -> mage's ballad with battle voice
    Damage needs to be reduced -> rain of death
    Black mage in the party -> foe's requiem, possibly with battle voice
    Ballad is up and healer has plenty of MP -> turn off ballad
    Straight shot isn't up -> straight shot
    Dots aren't up -> venomous bite and windbite
    Crit proc is up -> straight shot critical
    Everything is up -> macro spam

    You also need to stay close to people you're singing for. In case they keep moving too far away. >_> Many healers don't seem to realize if they move too far away, my song stops working for them.

    Well timed swift songs can speed up dungeons by a good bit. If you're going for speed. Swiftsong is only a tad slower than sprinting.

    It certainly isn't the most complex class but there's more to it than people think.
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    Last edited by LunarEmerald; 09-15-2013 at 04:52 AM.

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    It is easy to maximize Bard's dps but Bard is more than dps. It's part support. It has more responsibility than the other dps jobs.

    Bard is most tricky when you're trying to balance support and dps. Leaving Mage's Ballad up longer than needed severely hurts your dps and hurts the group overall. You have to pay close attention to the healer's MP.
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    Nibb Omniseer
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It is easy to maximize Bard's dps but Bard is more than dps. It's part support. It has more responsibility than the other dps jobs.

    Bard is most tricky when you're trying to balance support and dps. Leaving Mage's Ballad up longer than needed severely hurts your dps and hurts the group overall. You have to pay close attention to the healer's MP.
    Umm.. that's.. not hard to do. At all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
    Umm.. that's.. not hard to do. At all.
    Who said anything about hard? The only hard thing about this game is Titan HM and Turn 4-5 Coil.
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    Q'bi Ary
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    Archer Lv 50
    Whenever this kind of thread pop up, DRG/MNK will come in, QQ how hard their rotation is and still get beaten by BRD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moesugi View Post
    Whenever this kind of thread pop up, DRG/MNK will come in, QQ how hard their rotation is and still get beaten by BRD
    Well I'm sure you're smart enough to be able to tell how that will work out in the end, right?
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