Most Complex DPS Class

[Azunia]

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I fully understand the playstyle of Summoner from different friends on how they perform in Primal battles and dungeons. Their Dots are critical, but their problem is keeping dps up with other classes like brd and blm.I've seen plenty of professional summoners and I never think for a second on them complaining about Dots. Ever. Its just something they get used to.

Monk class on the other hand which is the main class I enjoy is a bit more of a different playstyle and much more difficult. I personally have no problems with dps or positioning, but the primal bosses make it difficult to keep DoTs and GL up to perform maximum dps(Like Teleporting and jumping for ifrit and Titan). Even 5 seconds is more than enough to bring any mnk dps to drop like a brick. Of course you have PB to quickly recover, but lets face it. The GCD and individual skill cooldowns is just ridiculous for it. I love mnk no matter what shape its in, but I believe monks skills do need a re-evaluation as well as summoner.

[Kyronex]

Complex to straightforward would probably be: Monk > Dragoon > Summoner (w/ pet management) > Black Mage > Bard

[Subucnimorning]

Monk is pretty complex to min/max. Haven't played the other jobs enough though

[Zenmaku]

Dragoons have an extremely lengthy rotation with a lot of situational skills that can be used off the GCD.

We also have the lowest Magic Resistance (and most attacks that hit us are AOE magic attacks) so we have to be more careful in combat than other classes.
Also, poorly timed ablities such as timing Jump when an AOE attack pattern is on the ground also gets us killed.

As such, not only do we have complexity in doing our DPS, we also have complexity in staying alive. Many people frown upon Dragoons because they "die so much", but really we are just a difficult class to play that needs to know all enemy boss patterns so we know when to use our attacks.

A dragoon that is just pressing 1-2-3 is going to have such a substantially lower DPS that its clear they aren't doing enough damage. This also contributes to people thinking our DPS is low, because in order to do high damage as a Dragoon you need to be able to use not only your GCD rotation but your Off-GCD skills perfectly.

[Zerosix]

Honestly I do not get why they would make melee "harder" than range... They already have tons of aoe for melee to avoid, and jumps animation lock is a struggle enough. I am not bored, and that is a plus. I still wish they would fix jump, though.

[Kalamari]

Hoping they will drastically simplify the monk rotation, or at least some parts of it (GL upkeep for example) to give a little more quality of life. I'm all for challenging rotations and jumping through hoops while balancing an egg on a plate ontop of your nose but some fights like Titan hardmode simply don't forgive divided attention, and monk rotation divides the FCK out of your attention (I'm sure Dragoons are in the same boat).

tl;dr: Monk/Dragoon damage requires disproportionate effort to do the same damage or lower damage as Bards, later fights just don't forgive divided attention unless you're a robot.

[Zerosix]

I know, and ranged rotations are cake mode, they do not need to avoid as much, and put out equal damage. It has to be worse for you as a monk. At least dragoon looks amazing, monks got the bad end of the stick. :P

[Teeko]

I know, and ranged rotations are cake mode, they do not need to avoid as much, and put out equal damage. It has to be worse for you as a monk. At least dragoon looks amazing, monks got the bad end of the stick. :P

Really? I love the way monk gear looks, and I am not a huge lover of dragoon lances/polearms. To each their own, I guess.

[Subucnimorning]

I know, and ranged rotations are cake mode, they do not need to avoid as much, and put out equal damage. It has to be worse for you as a monk. At least dragoon looks amazing, monks got the bad end of the stick. :P

I love how monks look. Atleast AF gear and relic.

But yeah the rotation is complicated enough that while learning fights my ability to min/max drops fairly substantially due to split second reactions needed to avoid mechanics.

[Lany]

Hard part about SMN dps if there are more than one or/and scholar use dots too. Have fun to find your dots espesially if you have hard time to see those slightly greenish counters on your dots.