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    sciencerob's Avatar
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    Kokolpa Tiatialpa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Since no one else is saying it

    Thank you for fixing the speed runs SE. Many people hate the change but I love it. I was a good WHM. I did the speed runs, ran along and raised everyone just like everyone asked me to, nary a complaint, even though I hate speed runs.

    I feel speed runs enabled jerks to... well be jerks. Complaining when some new player did not know their special way to clear the instance. I hope this alleviates some of the pressure new level 50 players feel when they get to this instance. I also hope this causes some jerks to quit the game.

    I see this only as a positive change:

    Thank you, SE.
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    Eldaena Vonxandria
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    There were several people, like myself and my free company, that did do speed runs and helped players new to the instance learn it as well. It doesn't matter if there are speed runs or not, people will still be jerks regardless. Now, instead of leaving because you don't know the instance, jerks will leave because you don't have the gear. Or you don't have some skill. Or you're not the job they want. Or anything they want. Maybe they just don't like the cut of your jib. It won't stop them from being jerks, but make it take longer to do the same repetitive dungeons. Hur.... ray?
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    Ein Vaer
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Now let's remove overheal Regen hate please.
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    Xenabelle Shadowsong
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Since my experience has been that it is very easy to run out of time in the instances, it's a bit disappointing that in the harder instances, there will now be so much time forced to be taken up by killing trash that there will only be a few attempts per boss before time is up.
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    Mayin Avantari
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by XenabelleS View Post
    Since my experience has been that it is very easy to run out of time in the instances, it's a bit disappointing that in the harder instances, there will now be so much time forced to be taken up by killing trash that there will only be a few attempts per boss before time is up.
    So you are upset that you have to do the instances the way they were intended, and that you cannot skip mobs. I've never tried these instances but I expect now you will actually have to be properly geared to succeed in them. WHAT A TRAVESTY!
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    EmeraldSerenade's Avatar
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    Roxie Revolver
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayin View Post
    So you are upset that you have to do the instances the way they were intended, and that you cannot skip mobs. I've never tried these instances but I expect now you will actually have to be properly geared to succeed in them. WHAT A TRAVESTY!
    So not only do you not know what you're talking about, you make assumptions too. A+ Post.

    Personally, I think this band-aid fix did more harm than good. A few more bronze pieces per chest is hardly worth the time investment to run these dungeons. Well, back to Castrum I suppose.
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    Xenabelle Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayin View Post
    So you are upset that you have to do the instances the way they were intended, and that you cannot skip mobs. I've never tried these instances but I expect now you will actually have to be properly geared to succeed in them. WHAT A TRAVESTY!
    My point is that when you do try them, you are going to have significantly less time to try the boss fights cause most of it will be wasted killing trash. It's not a matter of gear - it's mechanics you've got to get down pat while doing maximum damage. An extra point of int or vit from a slight gear upgrade is not going to make a huge amount of difference.
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Now let's remove overheal Regen hate please.
    As annoying as it it, I hope they don't remove it. I like the kind of gamble of it. If you are careful when you apply it, it is no problem at all.
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    Eldaena Vonxandria
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    Example: Just tried to duty find another AK run. First thing the tank tells the black mage, who declared they were new to the dungeon as they should, didn't have good enough gear. He had AF and some grand company accessories, which were fine to me, honestly. I've run this dungeon several times with a black mage and we have always managed to clear it without issue. The black mage needed to be run through to even experience the dungeon, so telling him he wouldn't do enough dps isn't even a point to be made until he got to try the fights. We were probably going to wipe a few times, but I wouldn't have minded. However, jerk people will still be jerks. The tank refused to do the dungeon until the black mage left and the black mage was actually going to do so. New-to-the-instance players should not have to be treated this way, to the point of guilt for it being their first time? I got upset and said the tank was a dick and left. As you can see, removing speed runs changed nothing. It's exactly as I predicted in my earlier post. And that was just my first attempt at doing that dungeon since the maintenance!!
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by sciencerob View Post
    Thank you for fixing the speed runs SE. I see this only as a positive change:

    Thank you, SE.
    You asked for it and you got it. Now you can expect a whole lot of:
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    Example: Just tried to duty find another AK run. First thing the tank tells the black mage, who declared they were new to the dungeon as they should, didn't have good enough gear.
    Taking out the speed runs did nothing but create more asshats. I'm not even ashamed to say I will be one of them. AK clearing trash will take 1+ hr ... considering I only have maybe 3-4 hours tops on any given day why would I risk an hour of it failing because the DPS can't get down Demon Wall? Granted I don't pug much at all for this same reason but even doing speed runs I put together my own groups for it as to not hinder or hurt new people pugging the dungeon.

    So many are happy over this now change but in a week or two after these groups there will be so much QQ on these forums. "Gear takes too long to get" "people who leave need to be more harshly punished" "I can't complete a run because no tank will stay in group!" etc etc ....
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