"Fix" Speed Runs? How about fixing the real issue?

[Kenjinmaru]

More WoW whiny babies that cry when the game doesn't hand them everything they want.

If the internet was high school, you would be one of these people who would get bullied and beaten up everyday for acting all smart when they actually aint got shit.
Countless MMo's from before the times of WoW offered something for killing trash especially because they are conscious that players are quick to exploit flawed design.

The point of trash is slowing the progress of a given group and give variety in the instance building up to the boss encounters.
Intelligent game design rewards the desire to willingly tackle the trash by giving non-gamebreaking rewards for those who dont skip it, such as:

[Kenjinmaru]

vendor items, low amount of currency, random green level drops (ilvel 55 or so would be relevant here), super rare blue level drops (ilvel 60 or so), ultra rare ilevl 70 drops in the harder instances, mega rare cute pets, etc etc etc...

Nothing that makes or break the economy or the gear balance of those who get lucky, and miraculously shuts up thousands of players who are frustrated that when they are grouped with noobs through an ungated duty finder, they can spend 2 hours in Ak at Demon Wall to make nothing but 5-10 tomes for the first boss, about 25 gil (1 gil per mob) while leaving with a repair of 1000 gil plus.

It's flawed design all over the place, and if they were listening to obnoxious little douches like you we would still be in 1.0 with them thinking the game is great as it is.

[Terabyt3]

Each trash mob drops a single tome. Would it really make that much difference? They all have a 5% to be a capped tome. But gauranteed 1 uncapped tome at least. (referring to capped and uncapped as i STILL get the names mixed up!)

[Brox]

Each trash mob drops a single tome. Would it really make that much difference? They all have a 5% to be a capped tome. But gauranteed 1 uncapped tome at least. (referring to capped and uncapped as i STILL get the names mixed up!)

No that would be dumb. 1-5 Gil per trash mob would be nice. 1 gil per trash pack? Something. Anything.

[Terabyt3]

No that would be dumb. 1-5 Gil per trash mob would be nice. 1 gil per trash pack? Something. Anything.

Huh?! What are you talking about?! Mobs already drop 1gil each. They are talking about making them drop more to gove players an incentive to kill them.

Since farming tomes is the biggest grind before coil and titan how can you possibly think mobs dropping 1 tome instead of 1 gil be dumb?

[Jarlax]

It's worse than that, they actually yield NEGATIVE gil because of the cost of repairs for clearing them. You're punished by clearing them and receive absolutely nothing for your effort.

No you don't, you get one gil per mob. Repair costs were lowered 1 run does not.. damage your gear enough.

@OP Every game posts like this, no I don't need instant gratification. Completion of the instance and boss loot is fine. Some people actually enjoy the immersion of fighting your way to the reward.

[Kenjinmaru]

No you don't, you get one gil per mob. Repair costs were lowered 1 run does not.. damage your gear enough.

I lol'd. Another exemple of a defender of the elistist widow and orphan who doesnt know what he's talking about.
Repair cost were lowered because it was preposterously high; however it is still high enough to cost much more than what the run yields, 20 fold.

The issue in FFXIV is that the gear damage is based on mob XP as opposed to player death. if the standard deterioration was reasonable and the death were highly punitive, then your elitist attitude would work: "dont be bad and your bill will be acceptable", in which case no need to change the trash drops.

But the flawed design makes the whole topic very relevant right now. And your immersion argument isnt even remotely on topic: just another spike attempt of proving how awesome you want people to think you are.

[Jaize]

He's just saying he enjoys doing the dungeon as intended lol not trying to say he's awesome because of it, I have seen several people say they dislike the speed runs, SE didn't kill the AK speed runs at all they just changed how you have to do it, i see several people still doing it.

Your gear repair is also only as expensive as the cost of the DM which can range from 0 gil if you buy it with seals to 350 gil if you buy it from the NPC. If you get a few Allagan Pieces from the chests this should cover it.

He may have said it in a slightly cocky manner yes, but that's typical on forums b/c everyone else likes to do so it rubs off on each other and often times they feel the need to do so to prove their point.

[Brox]

Since farming tomes is the biggest grind before coil and titan how can you possibly think mobs dropping 1 tome instead of 1 gil be dumb?

Because you'd get a piece of Darklight gear every run?

[Jaize]

Because you'd get a piece of Darklight gear every run?

If each trashmob in AK dropped 1 tome 100% that's only 78 extra tomes not enough for even a DL accessory every run?