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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    That is exactly what it is.

    Boss drops and the tomes are a reward designed to be given after clearing the trash plus boss. If you think you have a right to those rewards without the trash, then you are feeling entitled no less.

    You are mistaken in thinking the trash give no benefit. It's just that their benefit are rolled into the boss. This was confirmed by producer Yoshida in his Tokyo Game Show interview. So in the end we'll probably be presented with two choices:
    • Speed run and get half the tomes
    • Full clear and get the same number of tomes we get now
    If you still have a problem with this implementation, then you are feeling entitled.
    How many other games have you played where raids that contained mobs that dropped virtually nothing.

    I mentioned FFXI's trash mobs earlier, in Dynamis, Limbus and Salvage. Keep that in mind.

    Runes of Magic dungeons dropped CRAPTONS of gears and materials, and even recipe, ranging from common to rare, they also dropped medicines as well, and various other items. Most players collect these to make money.

    Scarlet Blade dungeons actually had a chance of dropping rare gears (which are very valuable) and items, including stardust gems and slivers. All trash mobs dropped money at least, and occasionally potions and other consumables. In fact, Scarlet Blade (despite how horribly boring and unimaginative their dungeons are), actually gave us a reason to actually WANT to kill their trash mobs.


    In fact, now that I think of it. FFXIV has been the only mmorpg that contains trash mobs that drop virtually nothing.

    So based on the past experience, are you really going to keep trying to tell me I'm feeling entitled, or am I really driving my point home on how pointless the trash mob killing if there's no benefits out of it, when so many other mmorpgs actually give benefits for killing trash mobs.

    And once again, killing trash mobs just to unlock the boss is not a benefit, nor should it be an incentive to kill em in the first place.

    Bottomline: I'm not a big fan of speed runs, but I can see why people want to do speed runs. Wanna eliminate this? Give a better reason to kill trash mobs.
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    Last edited by Suirieko; 10-01-2013 at 08:26 PM.
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