"Fix" Speed Runs? How about fixing the real issue?

[Jeht]

Edit: Oh, with a little dash of Guild Wars 2, as it's obvious this is where he pulled the FATE system from. I hope there's an interview with him admitting this as it would be rather disgusting if he doesn't even mention the inspiration.

Slamming an MMO dev for inspired ideas is getting on the far side of stupid. Lets not forget that Guild Wars 2 pulled it from Warhammer: Age of Reckoning. Or that it's been done in countless single player openworld RPGs.

[Jackus]

Oh, let's not forget that FFXI actually gave you incentive to kill trash mobs in dungeon-like settings. It's strange that a game made by the same company ELEVEN YEARS AGO has the right idea in comparison. If anything, this is a hardcore regression that makes me wonder if Yoshi_P only played Korean MMOs, the worst of them all.

Edit: Oh, with a little dash of Guild Wars 2, as it's obvious this is where he pulled the FATE system from. I hope there's an interview with him admitting this as it would be rather disgusting if he doesn't even mention the inspiration.

GW2 didn't come up with it. It was actually first implemented in Warhammer.

[IchirouHayami]

Oh, let's not forget that FFXI actually gave you incentive to kill trash mobs in dungeon-like settings. It's strange that a game made by the same company ELEVEN YEARS AGO has the right idea in comparison. If anything, this is a hardcore regression that makes me wonder if Yoshi_P only played Korean MMOs, the worst of them all.

Edit: Oh, with a little dash of Guild Wars 2, as it's obvious this is where he pulled the FATE system from. I hope there's an interview with him admitting this as it would be rather disgusting if he doesn't even mention the inspiration.

Just for the record when he did a live letter way back when he was talking about all the changes he was going to make to FFXIV, he actually stated he played tons of MMO's said afew (including Guild Wars 2) and said he was getting inspiration and advice from them and mechanics he believed would work in this game. So yeah.

[KirinNight]

Um, trash DOES drop stuff. They have a chance to drop components, which are very important (and profitable) in this game.

Don't sell to vendors, use the marketplace! You have to work for your gil a bit in this game.

[Elgeron]

Well, there are lots of materials needed for gathering that can only be obtained by killing mobs, like fleece and diremite web, and tons of skins and all kind of bones and other random things. And they are damn expensive in the market right now. I kind of see that as an incentive.

And not everything have to proportionate a reward. I like the challenge that some of the big group of trash mobs in dungeon can offer.

[HumsterMKX]

Why dont SE let those trash mobs drop animal fats, coke, etc. Sure as hell solves a lot of the problems we seeing.

[Zantetsuken]

How about fixing the REAL issue:

We, the "ELITE SLS*" (*Special Little Snowflakes) want the ultimate endgame gear RIGHT NOW with LITTLE OR NO EFFORT INVOLVED -- also we don't want EVERYONE to have it, that would make us less special.


How to achieve this:

1. Remove all dungeon currency drops from the game
2. Identify ELITE SLS players by the following criteria: A) Those that hit the cap their currency drops per week (use server data to find it) and B) Complain on the forums - Then give them 100k of both kinds of endgame currency and 999 million gil- this saves us ELITE SLS players TONS of time
3. Make unique flaming armor and ultra huge glowing weapons for ELITE SLS players so everyone can see us at a distance - oh, and a giant flying dragon mount.
4. Give ELITE SLS players with Dragon mounts the ability to open-world PVP - so ppl know how boss we are.
5. Give ELITE SLS players a tag to their name that says "FIRST ON SERVER for EVERYTHING" - make it really large text so ppl can see it in FATES and stuff.

If SE does this, it will ensure that the ELITE SLS players will feel super elite (and super special) a long time to come.

If SE doesn't do this, the game is doomed to fail.

[Zzyn]

How about fixing the REAL issue:

We, the "ELITE SLS*" (*Special Little Snowflakes) want the ultimate endgame gear RIGHT NOW with LITTLE OR NO EFFORT INVOLVED -- also we don't want EVERYONE to have it, that would make us less special...

......

If SE does this, it will ensure that the ELITE SLS players will feel super elite (and super special) a long time to come.

If SE doesn't do this, the game is doomed to fail.

/snicker :-)

I hope they just get mad and go back to WoW. Ugh. So entitled.

[e90guy]

How about fixing the REAL issue:

We, the "ELITE SLS*" (*Special Little Snowflakes) want the ultimate endgame gear RIGHT NOW with LITTLE OR NO EFFORT INVOLVED -- also we don't want EVERYONE to have it, that would make us less special.

...


If SE does this, it will ensure that the ELITE SLS players will feel super elite (and super special) a long time to come.

If SE doesn't do this, the game is doomed to fail.

I love to join your 1337 FC. Where do I sign up?

[Twiddle]

How about fixing the REAL issue:

We, the "ELITE SLS*" (*Special Little Snowflakes) want the ultimate endgame gear RIGHT NOW with LITTLE OR NO EFFORT INVOLVED -- also we don't want EVERYONE to have it, that would make us less special.

The real issue is people who think left and right are the same direction, and that blue and white are the same color, pop in your group for a 50min none speed run DF and make you regret you logged in this morning. And making it seem that the 30min penalty is a better alternative to commuting /wrists.