"Fix" Speed Runs? How about fixing the real issue?

[DeadlySwordz]

Can't wait for all the whiny cry babies to quit this game and go back to playing WoW where everything is handed to them. we'll be left with the more mature community! I'll guess after their 30 days free are up, they will no longer be here. That will be the day for festivities!

[Gilthas]

Make progress in a dungeon require players to kill the trash mobs first.

Problem solved.

[Vantwan]

What SE also needs to address is the amount of tomes dropped by hard primals. Really, 10 philosophy tomes and 4 mythology tomes from beating ifrit? At least double it or something.

[Rhen]

As it stands, if I'm capped on myth for the week I'd rather run CM now. It's babymode easy and offers a wider variety of mobs to skip and/or otherwise gloss over (cannons). Also, now that i've beated the three hardmode primals and gotten my relic weapon there is next to no reason for me to ever want to do them again.

Why given Titan a primal weapon if every person who goes to do him is there to get their relic?! Give him a helmet or something ffs.

AK is too expensive to run now. It takes three times longer and beats up my gear to the point where I don't even want to enter the stupid place. Risk and Reward, SE, Risk and REWARD. This is stupid

[Kroktar]

I really hate that it gives only 40 mitho...it could be at least 50 so it fits the 300 on 6 runs...

Also more mobs...way more fucking time...this is just a cheesy fix.

[roflcaust]

I think the folks who are applauding the halting of AK Speed Runs are just as clueless as the developers who always believe that gamers will play the game as they believed it was intended to play.

Game Design 101: players will always find ways to break, circumvent, or speed up past artificial processes that slow progression.

Last but not least, there's a correlation between the players vehemently cheering for the clearing of all trash in AK and other dungeons and the gear that they're wearing (checking it through the Lodestone): still wearing grey items; L28 rings and amulets; and a general lack of focus on stat itemization. For those people, the importance of clearing trash is reflected through their incompetence to care about what's important character-wise.

Their lack of experience and knowledge with the efficiency and results provided from speed runs only exacerbates and reveals their ignorance.

[kukurumei]

I think the folks who are applauding the halting of AK Speed Runs are just as clueless as the developers who always believe that gamers will play the game as they believed it was intended to play.

Game Design 101: players will always find ways to break, circumvent, or speed up past artificial processes that slow progression.

Last but not least, there's a correlation between the players vehemently cheering for the clearing of all trash in AK and other dungeons and the gear that they're wearing (checking it through the Lodestone): still wearing grey items; L28 rings and amulets; and a general lack of focus on stat itemization. For those people, the importance of clearing trash is reflected through their incompetence to care about what's important character-wise.

Their lack of experience and knowledge with the efficiency and results provided from speed runs only exacerbates and reveals their ignorance.

In other words, if you're not a "me" then why would I bother with "you".

I remember those are the same type of people that refused to wait for other people's story cut scenes, skip necessary progression for other players because there's no advancement for them, and generally "my way or the high way" type of players.

Welcome to cross server dungeon finder! Where only trash refuses to notice their own kind!

There is optimization at any level of the game. It takes time, teamwork and self enlightenment. For everything else it's call auto grouping.

[Lephise]

Game Design 101: players will always find ways to break, circumvent, or speed up past artificial processes that slow progression.

Also MMO Design/Maintenance 101: Fix issues found by players to prevent exploits.

No one can really claim that the speedrunning was not exploiting. I think it was just a design fault they overlooked. Games are meant to be played in some way, and there has to be some rules how things work out, like clear your way to the boss rooms. If an issue is found where the game's "rules" can be broken it should and will be fixed.

I may not have full set from the speedrun exploits, and i still dont consider myself a bad player. Even if its a MMO its still a game, and I enjoy actually playing my games instead of exploiting my way through.

[Buddhsie]

Make use of the gear set system and get some spirit bonding done!

[Engineer]

I hate speed runs, but still would like for trash mobs to have purpose.

Maybe if SE added a Merit System/Grid license board people would want to kill them.

and even a small amount of seals or more gil.

Edit:

Maybe SE should divide the full dungeon tombstone get to every mob in the dungeon.