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  1. #101
    Player
    Zabuza's Avatar
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    I simply cannot believe people are crying that they would have to spend maybe 20 seconds to log back into the game after they have been afk for 30 minutes. It simply boggles my mind that grown adults can cry about this.

    Please tell me why you need to be afk on the game for 30 minutes or more when there are no bazaars in this game. No seriously, PLEASE... enlighten me.
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  2. #102
    Player
    Jess72's Avatar
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    Character
    Violet Whetu
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 85
    Just.... log back in?
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess72 View Post
    Just.... log back in?
    Just... no?

    Why should I have to "just log back in?" Why can't I stay logged in? I explained multiple times in multiple posts how this feature does not contribute to the goals of why it was put in to begin with. This feature doesn't need to exist. It doesn't help anybody with the greater server capacity. FFXI let people stay logged in forever with no problems. There's no reason that can't be the case here.

    Login problems almost entirely went away after the previous big maintenance. This feature may have been helpful during the time when everyone was getting 1017 constantly, but now that it wasn't happening without the feature, there was no good reason what soever to put it in. The benefit it provides is insignificant, and the pitfalls will at least annoy a lot of people.

    If I'm kicked off, I can't scroll back and look at the company and linkshell chat that happened in my absence. There are many valid reasons to stay on even if you are AFK.

    I've not had any trouble logging in since the first server expansion. Not once. I don't see any reason to not log out people who aren't playing to alleviate any unnecessary server load.
    The impact of an idle player on server load is minimal. Unless a server is being given login restrictions, which more or less hasn't happened since last week on the vast majority of servers, there is no reason to log people out. You said yourself, you didn't have any trouble logging in. This means the inactive players were not having enough impact on server load to keep anyone from logging in or affecting gameplay in any measurable way.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 09-13-2013 at 01:22 PM.

  4. #104
    Player
    Gramul's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Eisen Gramul
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Just... no?
    Yes. That's your option. No one wants wasted server load.
    God forbid you spend 20 seconds getting back on.

    If your chat is so important, ask your fellow members what's been going on. You can't be there all the time for every conversation and that's just life.
    There are many valid reasons to stay on even if you are AFK.
    Please list them, because I personally wouldn't consider missing out on a random conversation a valid reason.

    The impact of an idle player on server load is minimal.
    One player, yeah, but it adds up.
    And the effort to log back in is less than minimal.

    This isn't a disastrous change by any means.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 09-13-2013 at 01:25 PM.

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Yes. That's your option. No one wants wasted server load.
    God forbid you spend 20 seconds getting back on.

    If your chat is so important, ask your fellow members what's been going on. You can't be there all the time for every conversation and that's just life.
    The "wasted server load" of a player doing nothing is insignificant. Again- IF THE SERVER ISN"T AT CAPACITY, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SINCE THE LAST 10 HOUR MAINTENANCE, THERE IS NO REASON TO KICK PEOPLE.

    If your chat is so important, ask your fellow members what's been going on. You can't be there all the time for every conversation and that's just life.
    No. I shouldn't have to make people repeat stuff they said just because I had to do some chore or something that took longer than i expected.
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  6. #106
    Player
    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The "wasted server load" of a player doing nothing is insignificant.
    You're making a measurable claim here. What reason do I have to trust you over the actual developers?

    No. I shouldn't have to make people repeat stuff they said just because I had to do some chore or something that took longer than I expected.
    If it's not worth repeating to someone who missed it, how is it worth knowing? You don't have to be there for every little conversation.
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  7. #107
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    Pavise's Avatar
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    Location
    Behind You
    Posts
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    Character
    Alek Sol
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 97
    Just as many have said there is no point in being logged on if you do indeed need to afk for more then 30minutes even then if you do indeed need to afk for that long come back to your computer at the 20-25 minute mark and move your character around for a few seconds interact with an NPC or two and your afk timer will reset back to 0 minutes.
    (2)

  8. #108
    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiyo Kozuki
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    One step closer to being WOW with a FF skin.
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  9. #109
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Character
    Ewitt Rainbow
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Pro's
    SE is paying for bandwidth, Got less if you're not logged in.
    SE is paying for Server repairs as they burn out parts because of use, everything has a mean time to failure. Less load last longer Cost less over time.
    SE has more money to do upgrades.
    Server have little to no login queues. (with WOW, I recall weight 40 mins in a queue to log in, now that's a waste of my time.)
    Less server leg.


    Con's
    Pay may need to re log in.
    You can't step away form your computer well waiting in a queue for duty finder. (well point of duty finder was so you could do other things well waiting for party to forum. go Craft / fate farming / gathering.
    World seem less full(but not really because there are so many people playing right now.)


    Inturn Pro's out way Con's


    And if this is go game breaking go find another MMO without a AFK timer, FFXI is bleeding players and you could use you, and it's AFK kick timer can be turned off.
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    Last edited by Kewitt; 09-13-2013 at 01:45 PM.

  10. #110
    Player
    rwyan's Avatar
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    Character
    Deeg Astra
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I don't understand how 30min is "too" short? Is it that difficult to log back in?
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