Hahah wait.. are you serious?

[CrystalWeapon]

I find it ironic that some of the people hating on this change were also talking down to people in the gil creation vs. redistribution threads about wanting things easy.

[jello]

You didn't know the G in MMORPG stands for Grind?

[Junpei]

Nothing that really goes "DANG DID THAT JUST DROP?" "How'd you get that item? That's insane!"

You should see some of the gear dropping in Bahamuts Coil! You cant buy it anywhere, its better than all of the stuff you can buy with tokens, it looks amazing.

Why are you still farming AK for darklight when there's so much better to be had!

And dont say you need Darklight for coil Plenty of FC's have been clearing it wearing a lot of green gear!

[Highguard]

The game is barely a month old if that and your crying because there is only 1 dungeon. I have a suggestion go play another class for a few weeks while casually working on the grind of your gear and wait and see how the first expansion goes. I am betting they will be adding more dungeons in short order. I am no SE fan but even on this note I would like to give them a pass at least till the first content pack they release and see where things are after that.

[rtpsoulx]

So like, i didnt read all the pages of posts here but uhh.. in 2.1 their adding more lvl 50 dungeons... they will most likely give the same rewards.. so stop trying to be "the best" right now and wait? Go craft or something, it's not that serious your just frustrated.

[Synfrag]

I'm pretty impressed how someone can justify killing mobs in this game that drop absolutely nothing.

Just to face a boss I have done 50 times before-hand.

Please try to justify.

If you just want to face a boss you have fought 50 times before go fight Ifrit, Garuda or Titan. You don't have to clear trash for those as I'm sure you know, you can just spam them repeatedly and they do drop Philosophy as I recall. True, you do need to do AK for Mythology but you do not have to have AFv2 for any of the content save for maybe Binding Coil and people have beaten Titan in less than full Darklight. Get past Titan and get your W on Binding Coil, until then your point is moot.

Also, if you spirit bond trash gear while fighting trash mobs you can make a ton of money, like the 200k I made yesterday off materia alone.

That aside, how about level some more jobs, a craft, a gathering class. I've done maybe 5 full runs through AK so far yet kept myself more than entertained in the 2 weeks the game has been out. Then again, I'm not selfish and I help others out with things, craft them stuff and screw around theorycrafting.

I agree there should be other ways to obtain Mythology but... I mean, expecting half a dozen endgame instances that help you obtain the best gear in the game within a month or two of launch is just asinine. Even more so than my taking someone with the name Lebron James seriously. In the end, this game requires intelligence if you want to be successful. You can't just queue for dungeons in AF and expect that to sustain you. You have to be smart enough to see the opportunities to make money or efficiently build your status. It's all part of the fun in the big picture.

[loth_ff]

there should be chest drops from the trash mobs at least.

[UlLoE]

So glad they fixed this speed runs, there will always be ragers and crying kids like the OP when an EXPLOIT gets fixed and they can no longer have things so easy and handed to them in a silver platter. This same type of person are a few weeks later in forums raging for the lack of content and that they have nothing to do in game.

Games are suppose to be fun and played, if u dont like farming hard for your gear then go do something else or maybe try a different game, cause for every 1 of u theres 10 more who actually enjoy taking their time and working hard for their end-game gear.

Once again ty SE for working so fast on this type of issues and fixing them, you are doing a great job keeping the real players happy and entertained with the game.

[Amaterasu89]

The game is barely a month old if that and your crying because there is only 1 dungeon. I have a suggestion go play another class for a few weeks while casually working on the grind of your gear and wait and see how the first expansion goes. I am betting they will be adding more dungeons in short order. I am no SE fan but even on this note I would like to give them a pass at least till the first content pack they release and see where things are after that.

Oh play another class and do the boring FATE grind?
Since there are like no quests and Dungeons give no exp for the amount of time they take.

[Kayo]

I rather grind out how to beat a boss that drops an amazing item then have a predetermined item after grinding tomes for hours.

Thank you! I hate this token system thats been going around for a while now. Oh no poor Timmy didnt get his drop this time .. boohoo. Go and try again! One of the best parts about MMOs is getting that sweet drop after a while then losing your mind when you won it. Instead we degrade into this token crap because the losers want to get a participation trophy too. Fucking WoW!

Bring back end game loot drops please!

That said, no you should have to clear out most of the dungeon at least before completing it. Speed runs are just as shitty gameplay as the tokens themselves. I agree they should add more like ... oh I dunno, have the other high level dungeons drop badass gear so people can play it?