Hahah wait.. are you serious?

[madolyn]

stuff /1000char limit

@Raymeo

would just like to point out that nobody is saying you need mytho gear to do coils....but philo / DL gear certainly helps.

Also, you bought all the cheap DL stuff. (jewelery)
If you plan to finish gearing your paladin in DL, then you still need 1325 for DL body, 1325 for flanchard, 495 for hands, 375 for belt.

so you still need about 3520 philo tomes. Add 900 to that for your relic you can almost taste and you're sitting at 4420 tomes you need to acquire. At 1 hour = 80 tomes...do the math. let me know how it goes.

To further add to this, Some of us have more than one job we like to play so the amount of tomes we need to farm increases exponentially. You can only grind at a snails pace for so long before you want to gouge your eyes out.

[Gilraen]

Okay, reading through this thread there seems to be this thing about gearing up which leaves me to ask. What's the minimum gear score for the dungeons? I don't mean the one set by the community, I mean the hard coded one set by the duty finder (assuming that's now a thing). Is AF really so maligned as to be ignorable? What about slightly lower level gear like Company equipment? You know, the ones that have a 5th or 6th bonus if you're wearing X amount of Company equipment? What constitutes 'ghetto' for endgame? Why are we even being so anal about this?

[Phasin]

I never really liked the speed runs and they did need to get addressed, but there also need to be more ways to farm mythstones to reduce the tedium of it.

But to be completely honest, AK has sucked for a while with the immense queue times. We started farming Garuda HM for mythstones because we can clear it 5 times for 40 stones faster than we could even get queued into AK in the first place. Garuda HM is more fun than AK too.

Then you can go farm your heart out in the variety of the five coils that drop mythology tokens AND endgame gear at a decent rate.

Sure, farm your heart out. Once per week.

[Xenogias]

My issue will be if the OP is correct in saying there is only 1 dungeon to actually farm 1 type of gear. That's just silly. I don't mind grinding at all. What I will mind is doing ONE dungeon 60? 70? 80? times PER job with no real reward other than tombs. Either add 2 or 3 more dungeons for some variety or add a super rare drop that's awesome. I don't care if it may only drop 2 or 3 times per job I gear up. At least the chance is there. The issue doesn't seem to be how much of a grind it is but how you go about it.

[Dartanis]

Keep way not the only way to get myth tokens, it was just the easiest. Once you get into Coil the bosses drop myth tokens. I have been told 50 per boss, I was always capped before I went in so I'm not sure. I could be wrong, but i sounds like OP wanted to get ilvl90 gear the easy way by speed running AK till cap and just running Coil because he wanted to.

P.S You don't need ilvl 90 or full DL to run Coil.

[Req]

Wait, you guys dont like the fact that they not only increased the number of trash mobs that serve no purpose other than to make the dungeon boring and drawn out, but made them nearly unsleepable, and run faster than a person sprinting?

[Bridgeburner]

In my opinion.. you probably just turned this game into the most ridiculous grind fest I have ever seen.

The game's been out just over two weeks. You're sporting a max-level character that speed-runs AK for lewt.

You like grinding, you jobless fiend. Don't pretend otherwise.

[Haoma]

I'm pretty impressed how someone can justify killing mobs in this game that drop absolutely nothing.

Just to face a boss I have done 50 times before-hand.

Please try to justify.

Justification isn't needed; love it or hate it, it's a means to an end. The end.

[Strelnikov]

If people weren't in such a rush to get to the level cap within 2 weeks of launch, they might actually enjoy the game a bit

THIS^^

I played with a great bunch of guys until release, then we couldn't get in to game. So of the 200 or so in the FC maybe 25 got in and never logged out, by the time we could actually get in, they were moving on 50, had already maxed some crafters and were doing the relic grinds.
Before all this in the phase 2 and 3 beta's it was great, everyone helped everyone, after this time we weren't allowed to contact the crafters or gatherers even though we had sent them many shards and materia. Greed doesn't flow with me.

You can play your hard core crap all you want, but I will be riding past you at level 50 while your sitting on your rear waiting for new content. Just like what happened in FFXI sit around the fountain all day.

[VanWulfen]