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  1. #11
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    One of the main problems that WoW suffered from, even during it's beginning, is that completing the end game content was a relative simple endeavor, and could be completed very quickly. This often left a huge gap in between the time that people were completing said content, and when new stuff came out. It was a huge complaint from a majority of the end game players, who were often left farming the same content over and over again that they had already completed, with little else to do.


    What SE is doing with this game is extending the life span of the game. By not dropping gil you have to find other avenues and pursue other ways of obtaining gil, be it from crafting, from gathering, doing leves, fates, etc. You cannot simply dedicate your entire play time to doing nothing but grinding out for end game gear - the game will literally punish you through repair costs by doing this. Instead, it motivates you to try other facets of the game, leveling up other classes and jobs, thus extending the over all shelf life of how long content will stay relevant.

    Drops are at the same cost, the lower number ensures that people will not be able to simply go out and get all the end game content and gear immediately, and it also means that only those who are willing to put in the time and effort will succeed.

    This isn't a lollipop playground movie where you spend 2 hours in the game and complete every thing you want to do. This is an MMORPG in a more true sense than any game currently on the market besides EVE. If you want to succeed your going to have to play, and your going to have to dedicate the time and effort into it.

    tl;dr - op is crying.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakashu View Post
    snip.
    So what you're trying to say is this..

    "It was a huge complaint from a majority of the end game players, who were often left farming the same content over and over again that they had already completed, with little else to do."

    So running AK doesn't .. mean.. this..?

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LebronJames View Post
    Oh.. so these monsters drop materia? .. No. I used SELF bought gear to spirit-bond an item and break it down.
    Which, unless you're extremely unlucky, should still turn a profit, in which case you've made money, or reduced costs on a Darksteel/Vanya set (which if you're working towards, means tomestones go on Coke/Potash/etc for more Gil, unless your self making, but given your last comment I doubt that). Then again, I don't know your servers economy.

    If your servers economy is trash, then I retract my statement. So far though, it seems like nobody is even trying to see a bigger picture with the trash monsters in dungeons... It's just "These drop nothing, so they're worthless", where as they drop EXP for Spiritbinding, which at the very least should be profitable (again, individuals servers may differ). It's something else to do in the dungeon, would be my point. Just running through for Mythology stones? Yeah... Screw that...
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    Last edited by Sotek; 09-12-2013 at 07:19 PM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LebronJames View Post
    So what you're trying to say is this..

    "It was a huge complaint from a majority of the end game players, who were often left farming the same content over and over again that they had already completed, with little else to do."

    So running AK doesn't .. mean.. this..?

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    If that's all your doing? Yes.

    Like I said, the game encourages you to do more; you can either be left complaining to no end like you are, or you can actually play the game as it was intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakashu View Post
    If that's all your doing? Yes.

    Like I said, the game encourages you to do more; you can either be left complaining to no end like you are, or you can actually play the game as it was intended.
    That's all you can do for mythology. Have you even DONE end game yet? Holy mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LebronJames View Post
    So what you're trying to say is this..

    "It was a huge complaint from a majority of the end game players, who were often left farming the same content over and over again that they had already completed, with little else to do."

    So running AK doesn't .. mean.. this..?

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    His point was the carrot is too far away.




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  7. #17
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    Even GW2 where fanboys always proclaimed there's no grinding has grinding in it. I do feel you though that they need to add more dungeons that rewards it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    Even GW2 where fanboys always proclaimed there's no grinding has grinding in it. I do feel you though that they need to add more dungeons that rewards it.
    Yeah, it's just pretty funny how people automatically assume that you have 8 hours of free-time just to farm out mythology and just say 'the game wants you do other things in the world.' but don't realize when you put that much time into capping..

    There isn't really much time to do much else, let alone experience end-game content.
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    Takes over 3200 tomestones of mythology for a set of AF2 for one job. We get 40 per run from AK and can collect 300 total in a week. How does SE expect us to gear enough of our jobs to allow us the flexibility to make parties for the highest level content?
    SE already introduced the unicorn because not enough people played whm. How many players who would have had whm geared as a second choice job will now not be available for high end content because of this gate on getting gear?
    "Sure guys I can switch to whm to help the party, just give me another three months of running this dungeon for eight hours a week to get gear and we're good to go."
    Ridiculous.
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    If people weren't in such a rush to get to the level cap within 2 weeks of launch, they might actually enjoy the game a bit
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