Hahah wait.. are you serious?

[Nikki]

Even GW2 where fanboys always proclaimed there's no grinding has grinding in it. I do feel you though that they need to add more dungeons that rewards it.

GW2 grinding is very different. It is mostly for cosmetic and looks. There are no stats to chase and whatever stats grind you do for dungeons you can get the same from PVP and crafting. So please do not even compare GW2 grind with that of FFXIV which is all about 'raid or quit'.

In FFXIV best items come from grinding dungeons..period. Good luck sustaining yourself with that kind of end game with P2P model in 2013.

[Usotsuki]

If people weren't in such a rush to get to the level cap within 2 weeks of launch, they might actually enjoy the game a bit

>implying everyone wants to play casually
>implying taking time is always so super and funny
>implying level cap in 2 weeks is fast

[Nikki]

>implying everyone wants to play casually
>implying taking time is always so super and funny
>implying level cap in 2 weeks is fast

I agree. If you stick to just one class (and not get distracted)...2 weeks is all it takes to hit 50. The real challenge comes while leveling other classes when there are no side quests, main scenarios and guildhest xp to boost your leveling.

[LebronJames]

snip.

Yeah, it's funny how much they put into your head that one character can be all the classes..

But you can only really gear up one at a time.

[Furious]

1. Don't wear your proper set for trash monsters, wear trash gear to Spiritbind. They're trash monsters, you don't need good gear for them...
2. Walk out of the dungeon with your Tomestones, minimal gear to repair (just the Spiritbond+ gear) and convert the rest into Materia.
3. ???
4. Profit.

If you don't wear proper gear, you do less damage, and the dungeon takes longer. The second they implement a kick function, I am kicking the hell out of anyone I see wearing spiritbond or white gear.

[AryaUnderfoot]

Well weekly cap is 300 which means I have to grind it up day one. Omg, there goes my whole day... Oh right I have a whole week, I can actualy pace myself and do other stuff.

Sarcasm aside, I just can't understand why people are outraged for such an obvious exploit being fixed. Unbalanced and exploited dungeons can ruin games if left unchecked for long (GW2 CoF p1 anyone? - not that that was the only thing that ruined it). I for one, am glad they fixed it as promptly as they did - goes to show they care about such issues. Now just to fix some other issues..

As for gear and spiritbonding. It is more than possible to do AK runs in white 45+ gear. Probably best not with a whole set of such gear but accesories should be good. I started running AK as a tank in AF gear with white 45+ accesories with not issues at all. Worst case you can swap out gear for boss fights. Despite the misconception, AK isn't that much of a gear check.

[Kevee]

Which, unless you're extremely unlucky, should still turn a profit, in which case you've made money, or reduced costs on a Darksteel/Vanya set (which if you're working towards, means tomestones go on Coke/Potash/etc for more Gil, unless your self making, but given your last comment I doubt that). Then again, I don't know your servers economy.

If your servers economy is trash, then I retract my statement. So far though, it seems like nobody is even trying to see a bigger picture with the trash monsters in dungeons... It's just "These drop nothing, so they're worthless", where as they drop EXP for Spiritbinding, which at the very least should be profitable (again, individuals servers may differ). It's something else to do in the dungeon, would be my point. Just running through for Mythology stones? Yeah... Screw that...

Why would I want(or be forced) to make the dungeon longer than it should be?

[Furious]

Well weekly cap is 300 which means I have to grind it up day one. Omg, there goes my whole day... Oh right I have a whole week, I can actualy pace myself and do other stuff.

Sarcasm aside, I just can't understand why people are outraged for such an obvious exploit being fixed. Unbalanced and exploited dungeons can ruin games if left unchecked for long (GW2 CoF p1 anyone? - not that that was the only thing that ruined it). I for one, am glad they fixed it as promptly as they did - goes to show they care about such issues. Now just to fix some other issues..

Because they didn't fix the underlying issues that caused such rampant use of the exploit in the first place - nobody wants to play such a horribly grinding game. Had they addressed the fact that a normal AK run is ridiculously un-rewarding in a time sense, it would have been a great fix.

[LebronJames]

Well weekly cap is 300 which means I have to grind it up day one. Omg, there goes my whole day... Oh right I have a whole week, I can actualy pace myself and do other stuff.

Sarcasm aside, I just can't understand why people are outraged for such an obvious exploit being fixed. Unbalanced and exploited dungeons can ruin games if left unchecked for long (GW2 CoF p1 anyone? - not that that was the only thing that ruined it). I for one, am glad they fixed it as promptly as they did - goes to show they care about such issues. Now just to fix some other issues..

I'm pretty impressed how someone can justify killing mobs in this game that drop absolutely nothing.

Just to face a boss I have done 50 times before-hand.

Please try to justify.

[PunkrockRobot]

If you don't want to play a horribly grinding game then why are you playing a MMORPG?