
Oh play another class and do the boring FATE grind?The game is barely a month old if that and your crying because there is only 1 dungeon. I have a suggestion go play another class for a few weeks while casually working on the grind of your gear and wait and see how the first expansion goes. I am betting they will be adding more dungeons in short order. I am no SE fan but even on this note I would like to give them a pass at least till the first content pack they release and see where things are after that.
Since there are like no quests and Dungeons give no exp for the amount of time they take.
So like, i didnt read all the pages of posts here but uhh.. in 2.1 their adding more lvl 50 dungeons... they will most likely give the same rewards.. so stop trying to be "the best" right now and wait? Go craft or something, it's not that serious your just frustrated.

So glad they fixed this speed runs, there will always be ragers and crying kids like the OP when an EXPLOIT gets fixed and they can no longer have things so easy and handed to them in a silver platter. This same type of person are a few weeks later in forums raging for the lack of content and that they have nothing to do in game.
Games are suppose to be fun and played, if u dont like farming hard for your gear then go do something else or maybe try a different game, cause for every 1 of u theres 10 more who actually enjoy taking their time and working hard for their end-game gear.
Once again ty SE for working so fast on this type of issues and fixing them, you are doing a great job keeping the real players happy and entertained with the game.
Thank you! I hate this token system thats been going around for a while now. Oh no poor Timmy didnt get his drop this time .. boohoo. Go and try again! One of the best parts about MMOs is getting that sweet drop after a while then losing your mind when you won it. Instead we degrade into this token crap because the losers want to get a participation trophy too. Fucking WoW!
Bring back end game loot drops please!
That said, no you should have to clear out most of the dungeon at least before completing it. Speed runs are just as shitty gameplay as the tokens themselves. I agree they should add more like ... oh I dunno, have the other high level dungeons drop badass gear so people can play it?

I think its funny how this game has only been out a couple weeks and people are complaining about "end game". Maybe if you had something else to do with your time while SE develops more content for a game that just came out you would be more happy. Give it time, shit. With all the complaints people have and all the work they are doing to fix it then having people complain that they want more that just seems a little unfair. Unfortunately everyone's mentality is "I paid for it so I should get EVERYTHING I WANT RIGHT NOW OR THIS GAME IS STUPID". Grow up please. I do agree that farming ONLY AK is pretty shitty and they should have at leased put a few other dungeons on release, but you're still playing so the game obviously is doing something right. I love this game while you're farming just take some time to do other stuff, help out some noobs, craft a few items, hang out with the FC. Just give it time.

I lol'd so hard.
So... hard...
Calling FFXIV a ridiculous grindfest is pretttty laughable. Compared to FFXI it's pretty tame, and compared to games like Lineage and Ragnarok Online it's babytown frolicks. Games where it took LITERALLY A YEAR to reach max level.
Hell, WoW was grindier than FFXIV is.
It's to keep players subscribing for a long period of time in order to obtain all these necessary tomes and gear.
In my opinion.. you probably just turned this game into the most ridiculous grind fest I have ever seen.
First.. you gotta run Amdapor 8 times in a week to cap your mythology.. that's 6-8 hours if you don't run premade and taking into account silly wipes to these bosses.
Not only that but there's literally no incentive STILL to kill these mobs. I just killed three and they gave me.. 1 gil.
Why did you guys create this game to just grind tomes of myth(From one dungeon might I add.) Plus nothing really drops no decent gear whatsoever. Nothing that really goes "DANG DID THAT JUST DROP?" "How'd you get that item? That's insane!"
It's rinse and repeat.. I rather grind out how to beat a boss that drops an amazing item then have a predetermined item after grinding tomes for hours.
Also, Strong the QQ is... yes.

So let me summarize this thread in short detail.
The game is new, and we are missing multiple levels of content between AK and coil. The biggest missing is the tower, and potentially some of the hard mode vesions of the leveling dungeons may be between AK and the tower (or at least equal to AK).
Progression is and will be the following, get to 50 ilv50 AF, run some AK for ilv60 and by then we can get some darklight gear and potentially one item of ilv90. (potentially some better gear then AK in other hard modes, yet to be know till released). With this gear you start working on the tower and get some ilv80 gear and more mythos for more ilv90 gear. Once you have done this content you are ready to enter coil (with the gear expected to use for this based on how it is balanced).
SE gave us coil knowing very few people would be able to actually do this content, and that you would be forced to grind like crazy for max darklight and as much ilv90 gear as possible to actually handle the content. In the tank department, WAR do not have the massive cooldowns to even attempt this w/o grinding the max amount of gear (and even then its much harder then PLD has it) and the OP is mad about this. Don't have this content, and people would have QQ like crazy that there was a grind but there was nothing to be grinding for.
FFXIV is plagued with the same issue EVERY MMO has at release, limited endgame, or slightly worse as we are missing the first tier of endgame but have the second tier which isn't as accessible as it should be. SE expected a small percent to grind it and work on coil, and expect most of the playerbase to slowly work on gear to be fully ready for the tower in a little over a month when 2.1 drops. Nothing is making us grind to try coil, get ready to do the tower and enjoy the game, and stop the QQ.
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